I stopped buying these because of the lack of instructions, ridiculous ball physics, (lead ball?) and for me, unattainable goals. Blade and then wolverine were my favourites.
As far as the Marvel tables are concerned, the instructions are all on their website. The fact that you need to actually look up the instructions for a table rather than it be somewhat obvious/intuitive IS a ding against all the Zen tables. There's rules and such I have had to look up for Williams tables too, but mainly for deep rule sets.
Yeah, but you shouldn't have to go to a website to research game rules. They should be clearly explained. On real tables, there was an instruction card with everything you need to do spelled out. And even without the card, the game should guide you through with flashing lights, audio cues, etc. The original Zen tables had none of this. The Marvel tables, I'll admit, are a little better at telling you what to do. But it really shouldn't be a mystery, not something you have to find for yourself like a video game. Pinball, after all, is a game of "skill," isn't it? Guessing the rules should be the skill.
Yeah, but you shouldn't have to go to a website to research game rules. They should be clearly explained. On real tables, there was an instruction card with everything you need to do spelled out. And even without the card, the game should guide you through with flashing lights, audio cues, etc. The original Zen tables had none of this. The Marvel tables, I'll admit, are a little better at telling you what to do. But it really shouldn't be a mystery, not something you have to find for yourself like a video game. Pinball, after all, is a game of "skill," isn't it? Guessing the rules should be the skill.
you meant "shouldn't be the skill" at the end right? but yeah, my thoughts and sentiments on Zen Pinball exactly!!
I think I said as much in my post, but I absolutely agree. They've got a lot to learn about what info should be gotten from the lights on the table itself, and what the DMD should tell you.
The whole Avengers pack is a step up from what Zen has done with completely off the wall table designs. All the tables after the core Marvel table pack are wonderful though there are some tables that are lackluster to me.
Favorite Marvel tables.
1. Fear Itself
2. Thor
3. Avengers
4. X-Men
5. Fantastic 4
6. Moon Knight
7. Captain America
8. World War Hulk
9. Infinity Gauntlet
10. Iron Man
11. Blade
12. Spiderman
13. Wolverine
14. Ghost Rider
Hmmm I guess I like the Thor Lore. Both FI and Thor are my top 2 tables.