Master List of Issues Within the PC Version

[FlippyFloppy]

During the current tournament I had about 10 balls that flew out of the Super Charger in High Speed II. When a ball flies out a new ball comes to the plunger. So you don't lose a lot of time but it is still very annoying ;-)

about bride of pinbot

"Post should be able to release only one ball at a time"

i saw some videos of real tables
seems its a rom setting for ball release or something like that

some bot tables release the balls with a delay
but in this video both balls are relased at the same time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_sgIkMkgyQ

for eg. time 3:32 and 5:23


but i had another bug:
when 2 balls are on the table it happens some times that 1 ball goes into the right starting lane
and i have to launch it again
never happend with the old bot version

i guess it should be impossible for a ball to go to the right starting lane during play execpt the ball comes from top down the lane
seems the ball goes through the wall into the lane

hmmmm
have to play a few games and test if this happens again or if the ball came from top lane and went to the starting lane and not through the wall ....

I'll push for an update to resolve these issues.

 

[otto4711]

I'll push for an update to resolve these issues.

cool

the problem with bride of pinbot releasing both balls at the same time is that 2nd ball sometimes goes directly into left outlane and is gone
because both balls touch each other before the lane

when u fix bop table could u add the lights to the eyes for dx11 ?
looks odd without the lights in the head


wonder if someday all bugs from Pinballwiz45b's 1st posting will be fixed....
may be delay a new table for 1 or 2 month and fix ALL the bugs ?....

 

[ryzombie619]

Wow, I haven't been on Pinball Arcade for a while now. All I can say is what happened? This game used to be one of my favorites, looked so good with the interface how you could scroll through the tables alphabetically and they had cool backgrounds behind the table. When you selected the table, the name was in big letters at the top and it sort of scanned around the table. I miss all of that. But I thought...okay...no big deal. The game play is still the same at least. I was wrong. Addams Family was clunky and slow.

Basically, I guess what I want to know, is how can we get these guys to change it back? This new stuff on PC is garbage.

 

[switch3flip]

Wow what happened to Getaway?? Balls flying out of the supercharger to the left and to the right. Either just out to playfield or out to the universe! Never ever had any issues then suddenly pretty much every other supercharger has issues.

 

[SCAAMMM]

Wow, I haven't been on Pinball Arcade for a while now. All I can say is what happened? This game used to be one of my favorites, looked so good with the interface how you could scroll through the tables alphabetically and they had cool backgrounds behind the table. When you selected the table, the name was in big letters at the top and it sort of scanned around the table. I miss all of that. But I thought...okay...no big deal. The game play is still the same at least. I was wrong. Addams Family was clunky and slow.

Basically, I guess what I want to know, is how can we get these guys to change it back? This new stuff on PC is garbage.

Good luck with that!

Such a shame the way this project has gone.

 

[ryzombie619]

Good luck with that!

Such a shame the way this project has gone.

Well the way I see it, this project wouldn't be anything without us, the people who paid for it. I sponsored all the kickstarters for those tables like Star Trek, Terminator, Addams Family, and I didn't do it so I could have them screw everything up later. Let's petition them to change it back to the way it was a few years ago in appearance and quality. Because it used to be hard to get off of Pinball Arcade, now, I am not even sure if I want to boot it up because I am afraid I am going to get annoyed again.

 

[rehtroboi40]

Well the way I see it, this project wouldn't be anything without us, the people who paid for it. I sponsored all the kickstarters for those tables like Star Trek, Terminator, Addams Family, and I didn't do it so I could have them screw everything up later. Let's petition them to change it back to the way it was a few years ago in appearance and quality. Because it used to be hard to get off of Pinball Arcade, now, I am not even sure if I want to boot it up because I am afraid I am going to get annoyed again.

It's especially bad when new updates mess up kickstarter table sims in TPA. Sure we get the latest revisions on Steam, but bugs are piling up with ever-increasing frequency. It's becoming harder to build up enthusiasm for TPA when the new releases are just okay, but they mess up some of the tables I jumped at the chance to play again. Like this Getaway fly-out fiasco.

Fathom looks like it will be a great addition to TPA-but I wonder which of my existing favorites will become unplayable as a result. Sadly, it seems like White Water is due for an update-mussing!

 

[SCAAMMM]

Keep speaking up, people! (In a constructive, polite way)

I just want Farsight to see how this game is losing its way under a mass of bugs and a 'get this month's table out now and move on to the next' attitude.

 

[otto4711]

i just tried visual pinball x with bride of pinbot and was surprised about the quality.

its a bit funny that some hobby guys create tables with such a high quality.
the table looks very good and the physics seems closer to the real table compared to fs and the dmd is the original.

 

[Pod]

Cross post from the steam forums. I'll post exclusivly here from now on

PC spec - Steam/Win10/All bugs in DX11 version 1.64.17

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Table - Dracula but may occur on other tables

Bug - High score entry box persists after high score entry.

Repro - Finished a game of dracula with a new high score and a new loop high score. During Loop initials entry I mashed Enter (my plunger button) and it went straight through the entry and started a new game (3 enters to set my initials, then 1 to start the game I suspect).
The dialogue box remained. Further enter presses added more players.
Esc would not clear the box or bring up the options menu. Only way to proceed was to Use task manager to close the program. Losing my score and all the goals I'd made that play session.

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General

Bug - Alt enter to switch from window to fullscreen ends up in low res despite window settings being 1920x1200

Repro - As discussed. Hit alt enter while in window mode. I was in the main menu when it happened. I've not tried to duplicate this so no idea on repro rate

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General

Bug - Wizard goals and local highscores not using cloud saves correctly

Repro - I've got the game installed at home and at work and both have been installed for a few weeks. Played at home earlier this week and set HS and goals in High roller casino.
Came to work today and played it here for potentially the first time (but I checked and I already had a save game file)
No highscores or goals of any kind present.

Doesnt appear to transfer from work to home either. Are cloud saves just tottaly broken? Does it sync anything at all?

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General

Bug - Local highscore value incorrect in menus and PHOF scores are all 0

Repro - Logged in at work and every table when selected (the screen before you launch it) has the wrong highscore in the lower left. Checking the scores seems to indicate that being logged in doesnt write your saved scores from FS's servers into your local scores. This may be as designed but seems wrong?

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General

Bug - No PHOF screen and no PHOF leaderboards

Repro - On mobile theres a button on each table launch screen in the bottom right to take you to your phof page. This is missing from PC. In its place is a PHOF score for that table only and your current highest Local score (another bug is that it doesnt care if its one of the defaults). If theres a button somewhere else to access PHOF stuff its not at all clear. If there isn't then whats the point of the PHOF score in the first place.

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Cheers

Pod

 

[EldarOfSuburbia]

With regard to scores and other settings on PC - there is no cloud save for TPA on Steam. If you want to carry over scores etc. between PCs, it's possible, but it is not a straightforward process. This also applies to re-installing TPA on a PC it was already installed on previously.

See this thread. (Note that this thread is stickied in the PC forum.)

 

[Pod]

With regard to scores and other settings on PC - there is no cloud save for TPA on Steam. If you want to carry over scores etc. between PCs, it's possible, but it is not a straightforward process. This also applies to re-installing TPA on a PC it was already installed on previously.

See this thread. (Note that this thread is stickied in the PC forum.)

Ah. The steam thread implies there is but that steam overwrites them. It's still rubbish though. It should cloud sync

 

[Pod]

Another bug

Plunger Lane fails to plunge unless ball is completely stopped. If you try to plunge while it's moving, even a slight horizontal roll, then nothing happens

Happens to me on HRC but is probably on all tables.

 

[Crazy Newt]

On Fathom, in portrait mode at 1440x2560 using DX11, every "When Lit" light is out of focus and blurry compared to the rest of the table graphics. This occurs at any room/table lighting.

 

[Pinballwiz45b]

Version 1.65.12 Bugs:

Fathom:

Restarting a game can result in the upper blue targets behaving incorrectly. Rectified upon exiting the table.
Starting a game can sometimes not lead to getting a ball on the plunger lane.
No individual backglass lamps? I haven't seen a real Fathom, but am unsure.
Extra ball hurry-up sound in perpetual effect.
Wizard Goal 3 toggles when the ABC Special lights, not when it is collected.
TotAN Theme?
Individual table purchase unavailable?

 

[rehtroboi40]

Once again, you can't buy Fathom individually. Not a big issue for pass owners (I'm one), but iOS users also reported Fathom was unavailable for purchase. And you know, you always make more money selling something if you make it possible to purchase.

Also, once again (Paragon had this same problem), Fathom has an identity crisis. There's that ToTAN theme again....

 

[Pinballwiz45b]

Once again, you can't buy Fathom individually. Not a big issue for pass owners (I'm one), but iOS users also reported Fathom was unavailable for purchase. And you know, you always make more money selling something if you make it possible to purchase.

Also, once again (Paragon had this same problem), Fathom has an identity crisis. There's that ToTAN theme again....

Added them just in case.

 

[otto4711]

bride of pinbot got some fixes

finally mouth and eyes got lamps now in dx11
and dual ball release is set back to one ball at a time (like on most real bop machines)

physics seems to be updated as well (or may be its just imagination...)
ball often fails to made it to the head and rolls back (makes it a bit harder and closer to the real table)

but there seems to be a small bug with final head and lamp position
with 1st and 2nd head lights are in the middle of the holes like they should be but with 3rd and final head after metamorphosis the lamp is not in the middle of the mouth its a bit to the left not much but u can see its not 100% in the middle.
(may be its not a bug and its ok... hard to say many yt videos are not in 1080p.... and i don't own a real bop table)

the flickering textures on the skill shot mounts are still there seems to happen less often but still there
during attract mode u can see them very good.
on the real table there are reflections from the lights from the skill shot values onto the metal of the starting lane not sure if fs tried to emulate these reflections which causing the flickering bug.....

but thx for updating bop


hope black hole with full rom emulation is next on the list

 

[otto4711]

i found a new bug with Bride of Pinbot

the supporting lanes on the head (top next to the eyes and bottom below the mouth) and are not symmetrical
look at these pictures

on the 3rd picture u see that the right ball doesn't fit into the hole because the supporting lane is blocking the hole a bit

https://picload.org/view/dgowcprr/pinbot3.jpg.html

https://picload.org/view/dgowcpri/pinbot2.jpg.html

https://picload.org/view/dgowcprl/pinbot1.jpg.html

 

[SCAAMMM]

I'm holding myself back from going off on one again! I really am.


What with PBFX 3 being less than well optimized, I'm losing faith in digital pinball...