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<blockquote data-quote="soundwave106" data-source="post: 148499" data-attributes="member: 3746"><p>I'm Generation X and this is true of my era.</p><p></p><p>However, I bet that is absolutely untrue The Boomer era -- especially if we are talking about late EM to early solid state era (eg the 1970s right up to the video arcade boom). Basically post-Tommy, which is probably the watershed moment of "pinball" in the general culture. (In fact, some of the more "iconic" EMs IMHO are kinda "inspired by Tommy", such as Captain Fantastic and Wizard).</p><p></p><p>I'd actually argue that pinball was a bigger deal to that era compared to the revival years. The biggest issue is that they really are two different audiences and many from one era don't like the machines from the other era that much (and vice versa). I've often wondered if there was a way to separately market between the two... perhaps not, but pinball machines sold a *lot* more overall in the late 1970s. </p><p></p><p>Regardless, it is true that the vast majority of the requests are for DMD pins or System 11.</p><p></p><p>Also true is that this 1970s era really includes a lot of early SS, not just EM. In fact, the top sellers of this era were SS. So yes we do have more than just one pin from this era in Pinball Arcade. Under this expanded definition, this would include Gorgar, Black Knight, Flight 2000, Centaur, and Firepower. And I'll be honest, from what I see on the Facebook requests, the "better" targets to aim for are the late 1970s to early 1980s SS (eg stuff like Eight Ball Deluxe and Xenon). Especially since Centaur is emulated as well from what I remember, which means Ballys from that era don't have to be scripted.</p><p></p><p>The pre-1970s EMs do get kind of screwed. This is where there probably not a whole lot of interest at all, especially on the ones with "weird" features like Central Park.</p><p></p><p>Something like Wizard would be a more interesting thought experiment since the "Tommy"ish connection might draw in more casual players. It amazes me how despite everyone saying "EMs don't sell well" and so many people thinking EMs suck, so many people seem to love playing Big Shot.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="soundwave106, post: 148499, member: 3746"] I'm Generation X and this is true of my era. However, I bet that is absolutely untrue The Boomer era -- especially if we are talking about late EM to early solid state era (eg the 1970s right up to the video arcade boom). Basically post-Tommy, which is probably the watershed moment of "pinball" in the general culture. (In fact, some of the more "iconic" EMs IMHO are kinda "inspired by Tommy", such as Captain Fantastic and Wizard). I'd actually argue that pinball was a bigger deal to that era compared to the revival years. The biggest issue is that they really are two different audiences and many from one era don't like the machines from the other era that much (and vice versa). I've often wondered if there was a way to separately market between the two... perhaps not, but pinball machines sold a *lot* more overall in the late 1970s. Regardless, it is true that the vast majority of the requests are for DMD pins or System 11. Also true is that this 1970s era really includes a lot of early SS, not just EM. In fact, the top sellers of this era were SS. So yes we do have more than just one pin from this era in Pinball Arcade. Under this expanded definition, this would include Gorgar, Black Knight, Flight 2000, Centaur, and Firepower. And I'll be honest, from what I see on the Facebook requests, the "better" targets to aim for are the late 1970s to early 1980s SS (eg stuff like Eight Ball Deluxe and Xenon). Especially since Centaur is emulated as well from what I remember, which means Ballys from that era don't have to be scripted. The pre-1970s EMs do get kind of screwed. This is where there probably not a whole lot of interest at all, especially on the ones with "weird" features like Central Park. Something like Wizard would be a more interesting thought experiment since the "Tommy"ish connection might draw in more casual players. It amazes me how despite everyone saying "EMs don't sell well" and so many people thinking EMs suck, so many people seem to love playing Big Shot. [/QUOTE]
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