Nudging

Zaphod77

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Bangbacks have been around for ages, but are considered cheating, and are abuse of the game.

A death save (a well timed standard nudge which causes the ball to bounce off the trough wall and up between the flippers)is not abuse of the machine though, and if it doesn't tilt, is okay, although they are still usually disallowed in tournaments.

Many Data East games, starting with Rocky and Bulwinkle (i think), gave you a point bonus for doing a death save, so it's sorta considered legit on those, though i think if you do it in a tournament you will be forced to drain the ball right after.

ALso on soem tables, even without a center post, the ball can randomly bounce right back up between the flippers off of something. this is okay.
 

workshed

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ALso on soem tables, even without a center post, the ball can randomly bounce right back up between the flippers off of something. this is okay.

This is usually called a Lazarus. It seems to be much more common on real machines; it is quite rare on TPA. Steve Bowden's new pinball dictionary also includes balls that make it from the right outlane to the kickback on the left and back into play as a Lazarus as well. This is much more common on TPA in my experience. http://funwithbonus.com/new-pinball-dictionary-lazarus/
 

Zaphod77

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It's really only common on certain machines.

Premiere games tend to have rubber posts around the trough. a ball that flies in at just the right spot will bounce back out.

Some games that have a missing outlane, like Hollywood heat, can have the ball bounce back off the right trough wall directly.

Some older Ballys, like Dungeons and Dragons, also have odd things around the trough entrance that the ball can bounce back off of.
 

workshed

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It's really only common on certain machines.

Premiere games tend to have rubber posts around the trough. a ball that flies in at just the right spot will bounce back out.

Some games that have a missing outlane, like Hollywood heat, can have the ball bounce back off the right trough wall directly.

Some older Ballys, like Dungeons and Dragons, also have odd things around the trough entrance that the ball can bounce back off of.

Yah, I didn't say it was common on real machines, just more common than on TPA. I have seen it happen on many machines from different manufacturers but it is indeed fairly rare and lucky occurrence most of the time.
 

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