Premier Dissapointment

[Mark W**a]

I made a vow to never go negative again.

Well , too late.

They suck. Lets just be honest here. Nobody wants these crap tables. The best you'll get is "oh, I don't mind them" or " they're ok". No. We shouldn't settle for turds, when there's tons and tons of great tables waiting to be done.

Pinside and Gaf and and all my friends are pretty much sharing the same sentiment. My two best buds refused to buy the two packs. Their losing fans and sales by releasing this crap.

There are tables like Banzai Run that didn't make the Williams poll top 10 because there was just so much good stuff on there. And se with the Bally poll. I really hope Zfarsights realizes that there are tons and tons of great machines to do and they don't need to resort to scraping the bottom of the barrel.

 

[Jeff Strong]

I thought you originally said you liked this pack?

EDIT...

From the iOS thread:

1812 is awesome. I like how both 1812 and Victory are just straight up, no nonsense fun. Just easy to understand easy to get into and very enjoyable.

Well, looking at your later posts in that thread, it looks like you retracted your view.....lol Mark.

 

[BigWeather]

I'm fine with the mix of releases we've been getting.

 

[ZenTron]

Your buds should buy season passes and you don't know their sales.

 

[Nightwing]

Mark,

I don't think that they are horrible,but I do agree about rather having the Williams tables. And I do think we get Banzai Run in Season 3

 

[Dumpstar]

As long as Fish Tales comes soon, I will be happy. I have given both tables a good session, and neither is particularly great. THat said, they may grow on me down the track, especially once I ahve a PS4 and am not trying to play it on a iPhone which is terrible for some tables (Whirlwind is probably the worst on the iphone, just can't see the balls well enough when things are happening on the table).

 

[PiN WiZ]

Either the title of this thread needs to be changed or its gone.

 

[Mark W**a]

I thought you originally said you liked this pack?

EDIT...

From the iOS thread:



Well, looking at your later posts in that thread, it looks like you retracted your view.....lol Mark.

I was drunk. And trying to delude myself into happiness with the pack. But it ultimately didn't work.

Pin Wiz: I don't know how to change the thread title.

 

[smbhax]

Non-mods can't change thread titles.

Mark, maybe make fewer drama threads?

 

[PiN WiZ]

I was drunk. And trying to delude myself into happiness with the pack. But it ultimately didn't work.

Pin Wiz: I don't know how to change the thread title.

Let me know what you would like to change it to so that you can still get your point across, but with a little less negativity.

 

[Jeff Strong]

Yeah, to say all Premier tables suck is stretching it. Class of 1812 for instance has a fairly good reputation among the pinball community. You mentioned the last 2 packs, and Haunted House is considered to be one of the best pins of its era.

 

[Mark W**a]

Change it to Premier Dissapointment.

 

[Mark W**a]

Yeah, to say all Premier tables suck is stretching it. Class of 1812 for instance has a fairly good reputation among the pinball community. You mentioned the last 2 packs, and Haunted House is considered to be one of the best pins of its era.

It's the elephant in the room. It's not about being "negative" it's about being real at this point. People mention it in private but why not get it out in the open? What good is bottling up dissapointment and ill feelings?

Well it really goes back to GN/F2K when the disappointment started. And IMO it's continuing next month with Cue Ball Wizard.

I'm just starting this thread to talk about the general disdain across not just here but pinside, Gaf, and just with people in general.

Haunted House is a classic I don't think many have issues with that one. Certainly , releasing so many classic tables in a row wasn't wise . They simply aren't as deep of an experience as the newer boards. With that said, it's the Premiers that are leaving the bad taste in everyone's mouth. The quality just isn't there. If 1812 is the best they have to offer than that says it all right there.

 

[MontanaFrank]

I think this thread needs to be closed. It's too negative already.

Mark I love every pack that has come out in Season 2. I'm looking forward to next month.

When the Steam version comes out, it's tablepack two I'm buying. The only table in pack 1 I'll miss is AFM.

I like you as a forum member, Mark. You keep playing these tables from all I read. I know you are disappointed a lot with TPA. I am just happy you are still playing the pins and continue to be disappointed. I just wish you would express your disappointment in a nicer way.

You do make good points. Maybe look at a synonym dictionary to help you to tone down the harshness of your posts.

 

[Gord Lacey]

I agree, Frank.

 

[PiN WiZ]

Yea, my apologies. I should have gone with my first instinct when I came across this thread. I can promise you, it won't happen again.