Top 3 Showdown: Farsight's Official Pre-1980 Poll

[Crazy Newt]

I love all pinball tables in some way, though I definitely have my preferences. I don't care as much for the more complicated layouts, and many of my favorite tables often have only 2 flippers. There are always exceptions, and I even enjoy Genie and Haunted House, just not as much as MM or AFM type layouts. Both Cyclone and Bad Cats are 2 of my favorites that I would love to see in TPA.

 

[Snorzel]

I love the history of pinball and seeing the progression in gameplay over the years. One cannot know light if they have never experienced dark. Variety is everything. I love the challenge of EM games, they play different than newer ramp based DMD tables. The return to the flippers is more random and provides different challenge imo. I will pay double for an EM to make up for those too cheep to support

 

[MontanaFrank]

I wonder if MontanaFrank also dislikes Bride of Pinbot, which IMO is a "one trick pony" with an almost identical level of sexy feminine android vibe to it. One of my favorite tables as well, I might add...

I love BOP, even though I don't play it much because it's a "One Trick Pony", I have attained all the goals and the last time I played BOP the plunger was not always consistent.

I also have to disagree that BOP has the same feminine drive as Xenon. There are not obvious tits on BOP while they are right in front of you on Xenon.

I have not listened to the soundtrack of Xenon, but the sound track of BOP, IMO, shows her to love for Pinbot and Pinbot's love for BOP because he created her from loneliness.

I can't comment on Xenon's soundtrack. 99% of my TPA pinball is played on mute.

Anywho....The Pinball Arcade has tables of machines we can all love and tables machines we can all despise.

 

[Reagan Dow]

I love the history of pinball and seeing the progression in gameplay over the years. One cannot know light if they have never experienced dark. Variety is everything. I love the challenge of EM games, they play different than newer ramp based DMD tables. The return to the flippers is more random and provides different challenge imo. I will pay double for an EM to make up for those too cheep to support

+1

 

[Zorgwon]

+1

+1 (for an EM)

 

[Fungi]

One cannot know light if they have never experienced dark.

Like gobble holes and 2" flippers.

 

[Dedpop]

 

[Heretic]

tits missing a nipple

 

[gman42]

Yeah I played Fireball, it is less than interesting. I bet if they did a third poll Xenon vs. Paragon most of the Fireball votes would go to Paragon giving it the win. Oh well I will buy any and all tables for TPA..the only one I demand is Eight Ball Deluxe

I bought 8ball Deluxe for my computer when it came out, from Amtex, couldn't wait to have a "real" pinball game to play at home. Unfortunately the action was terrible! TPA really needs to put that table out, with improvements.

I'd also kill to be able to play Blackout again. So many great tables from the early-mid 80's...

 

[gman42]

Has anyone heard any updates on timing as to when TBA will be coming back to Xbox 360? It's been too long!

 

[StarDust4Ever]

Has anyone heard any updates on timing as to when TBA will be coming back to Xbox 360? It's been too long!

360 is dead, I'm afraid, as is Wii-U...

 

[Kratos3]

360 is dead, I'm afraid, as is Wii-U...

360 is coming. Wii U is closer to dead.

 

[Nat-1969]

360 is coming. Wii U is closer to dead.

PS4 seems to get tables as late as anyone..but that is OK.I've said before and I'll say it again..I will buy any and all tables for TPA..the only one I beg for is Eight Ball Deluxe

 

[vikingerik]

the last time I played BOP the plunger was not always consistent.

Topic drift, but this is deliberate and true to the real machine. There are oblong dividers which rotate on a horizontal axis between the skill shot holes. So plunges on a real machine are inconsistent and indeterminate as well. TPA doesn't really show this visually, but replicates the behavior. I didn't realize this until finally playing a real BOP at the Vegas Pinball Hall of Fame last year.

 

[Espy]

Topic drift, but this is deliberate and true to the real machine. There are oblong dividers which rotate on a horizontal axis between the skill shot holes. So plunges on a real machine are inconsistent and indeterminate as well. TPA doesn't really show this visually, but replicates the behavior. I didn't realize this until finally playing a real BOP at the Vegas Pinball Hall of Fame last year.

Oh really? I never noticed this on a real machine before. Can't really picture it.

 

[TomL]

Topic drift, but this is deliberate and true to the real machine. There are oblong dividers which rotate on a horizontal axis between the skill shot holes. So plunges on a real machine are inconsistent and indeterminate as well. TPA doesn't really show this visually, but replicates the behavior. I didn't realize this until finally playing a real BOP at the Vegas Pinball Hall of Fame last year.

Wow, thanks for pointing this out.

http://www.ipdb.org/images/1502/image-29.jpg

Any other tables that have dividers like this?

 

[gman42]

Thanks for the vote of confidence about 360 still coming. I really don't want to have to buy another system! Hopefully it's soon....

 

[shutyertrap]

Thanks for the vote of confidence about 360 still coming. I really don't want to have to buy another system! Hopefully it's soon....

Just watch...it'll finally drop on the 360 and then Microsoft will stop supporting 360 servers in favor of the Xbone.

 

[Heretic]

this is why full retail discs are preffered the relance on dlc and internet access these days is alittle disconcerting.

all apps AND paid for media should be able to be backed up offline and reinstallable at least on the same device, forget the logistics security and comolexities of being able to import code it just SHOULD be that way

not that i expect the cloud based appstores or steam or whatever do go tits up, but id like a choice of accessing all my media via signed backups offline too

as it stands if tpa were to ever withdraw for some mad insane legal reasons

its basically 1-2 ps4 discs

or a pc backup really

 

[StarDust4Ever]

this is why full retail discs are preffered the relance on dlc and internet access these days is alittle disconcerting.

all apps AND paid for media should be able to be backed up offline and reinstallable at least on the same device, forget the logistics security and comolexities of being able to import code it just SHOULD be that way

not that i expect the cloud based appstores or steam or whatever do go tits up, but id like a choice of accessing all my media via signed backups offline too

as it stands if tpa were to ever withdraw for some mad insane legal reasons

its basically 1-2 ps4 discs

or a pc backup really

Off topic but here goes...

It is indeed troubling that eventually DLC and digital content will be unattainable. Nintendo maintains at least one generation of backwards compatability with their handhelds and consoles, but it may not always go like this. Microsoft and Sony have both pulled server support for Xbox original / PS2. Nintendo Wii has all services taken down except for the eShop. PS3 and Xbox 360 will likely go next. Android and iOS so far seem to have maintained backwards compatability across generations, but this may eventually change as well. Apps might be half broken, like trying to run Windows 3.1/95 programs on Windows 8.

Mac switched architectures, ultimately rendering all Power PC apps incompatible with the death of Rosetta. Nintendo currently runs an outdated derivative PowerPC architecture on it's Wii-U, for the third consecutive hardware generation. Next home console will probably move to either ARM or x86, killing backwards compatability with Wii-U. Nintendo is talking of creating a "unified" platform out of their home console and handheld divisions, and moving to ARM would be one way to achieve that. Knowing they tend to do their own thing and not what the rest of the industry is doing, I can't see them going with a power hungry x86 that would actually compete head on with MS/Sony.

Even if you could keep stuff running forever without breaking your hardware, eventually the console would change ownership, and the new user will be stuck with whatever games and DLC the previous owner used. Any new or used disc games, if they can be initialized at all without dialing home to the servers, will be without those critical day-1 updates and may have bugs or playability issues. FPS games will be in the bargain bin along with the throwaway sports titles. And physical media will likely be dead by the time 9th gen gets here. Future downloads-only consoles will essentially become "bricks" without a server to log into, unless you're into exactly the same stuff as the previous owner.

I have an 4-switch Atari 2600 that likely rolled off the assembly line shortly after I was conceived (May 1980 date stamp; I was born Jan 1981), and it still works. And we all know how many times Atari has changed hands or filed bankruptcy over the years. Mechanical disc drives will fail, non-volatile memory will wear out from rewrite cycles or suffer bit-rot, but the mask-rom cartridges and their systems will outlast everything. Future downloads-only consoles will effectively "die" when the servers are shut down. Disc based consoles will die when their drives fail or firmware gets corrupted. Cart systems and games will outlive their original owners if well cared for...

Arcade machine owners (pinball and video), back up those EP-ROMs before die. Many machines are pushing 30 years old but bit-rotted EP-ROMs can be replaced just like a worn flipper, if one has a backup copy of the data.