Buzz1126
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Keith Richards has been dead for over twenty years. Nobody's told him, though.
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Welcome Back to Digital Pinball Fans - please read this first
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Keith Richards has been dead for over twenty years. Nobody's told him, though.
Buzz1126
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I'll pay five dollars for a table. I won't like it, but it's still cheaper than a actual machine, takes up less space and my wife won't have to see it every day. If a table is a KickStarter project and we are backers/funders, there should be no extra cost to us.
Captain B. Zarre
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You just did.
No more Designated Complaint Areas, I've had enough. Just enjoy the game for what it is.
For your consideration, our own Sean made a list called "What Greed Won't Get You" that talks about the prices of TPA vs. real life machines. Think about it and you'll be able to put everything on perspective, I hope. http://digitalpinballfans.com/entry.php/29-What-Greed-Won-t-Get-You
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On Steam they do. They don't on iOS or Android I can;t answer for sure for the other platforms.
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It's a faulty argument though. If I'm playing Gran Turismo, am I supposed to be adding up the savings for not having to purchase all those cars? It too is a simulator of the real thing. I suppose I could play a flight sim and be thankful for all the money I'm saving on piloting lessons. Rocksmith is about the closest you can come to showing actual savings, in that you are using a real guitar to interface with virtual instructions, thus saving on those lessons. Take it to the opposite extreme though...I know guys that play Call of Duty AND like to play paintball, yet I've never heard one of them comment on how much money they are saving by only playing CoD.
I think it's fantastic having TPA, it scratches my nostalgia but in a serious way, and it helps me be a little more competitive in my monthly pinball league. But not for one minute do I look at my real Firepower machine and think, "I should just sell this and then I could have all the pinball I want on every platform I want!"
ER777
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Yes, if you're not accruing the savings GT has provided you then you're not managing your household finances correctly. Every dollar saved on not buying supercars should be directly allocated to the buying pinball machines fund. The same goes for every real machine you don't buy because of being able to play it in TPA, that's all the more money to buy machines that aren't in TPA.
What? That's now how everyone else looks at it?
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brakel
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None of the kickstarters have been funded entirely by the kickstarter. The kickstarter funds the extras upfront licensing. On top of the normal licensing and per unit sold licensing fees there is also the premium per unit sold licensing fee. It's the extra per unit sold fee that is being paid to the premium license holder that is covered by the higher price of the premium table.
Bowflex
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Not to mention that they must buy the table and all the work that goes into transforming it into a digital table. While those costs are assumed with every table, the kickstarter doesn't fund those aspects either
Tabe
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Yeah, thanks to that issue, I don't buy tables on Android either.
Sean
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Even with multiple screens pedals and a steering column no driving game is going to come close to giving you a feeling of actually driving a car. Besides the fun of driving games is that they make you feel like you can drive those cars without requiring the actual ability to drive those cars!
The Pinball Arcade might not be the same as playing a real machine either, but it's close enough to the real deal to scratch that itch as you say. Given I can't even find a Star Trek the Next Generation machine to play for a fee, but I can pay someone to let me race a Ferrari around a track, I think it's a valid point to compare the price of virtual pins to their real counterparts in this discussion.
phattslagg
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OK - just got off the phone with Apple, who insisted that the discount error in the UK store is entirely Farsight's problem. Having re-read FS's reply, I realised they were talking about the Sony store, and as I had just unboxed my new Vita that day, it didn't flag up as inappropriate
So, to recap - UK iOS users are still being screwed on the Season 3 Pass because they are only getting a 30% discount, instead of the 40% promised by the IAP.
So, to recap - UK iOS users are still being screwed on the Season 3 Pass because they are only getting a 30% discount, instead of the 40% promised by the IAP.
phattslagg
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The price difference is equivalent to an individual table pack. On the Pro pass, which is also out by 10% it's a £6 difference. Seeing as I've already purchased every individual pack in Seasons 1 and 2, I don't feel like donating Farsight the price of another pack, just because they can't be arsed to get the discount worked out correctly.
lettuce
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Just noticed this post by FarSight on their Facebook page....
"For the first two Seasons of the Pinball Arcade we released two tables every month: one new table, and one re-released table from our older Pinball Hall of Fame products. The re-released tables cost us much less to develop than the new tables because the license fees on them were already paid and the art, programming, and sound for them was already done: all that was required was to port them to the new Pinball Arcade physics system. Accordingly, we haven't been charging extra for them- we've included them because we want the Pinball Arcade to include ALL of our tables, not just the new ones.
However, we've now re-released nearly every Pinball Hall of Fame table, so starting in Season Three we are releasing a single new table each month. We've also lowered the price of the Season Three Pack and Season Three Pro Pack to $29.99 and $39.99"
This is obviously Bullcrap and they never were or intended to giving away the 2nd re-released table of each pack as free!, their just saying that now to make it look like their not over charging people now there's only 1 a month. If this was the case and the re-released table was indeed 'free' then how come the purchase price for a season pack has been reduced, it would still be the same price if indeed the re-released table was free....which it never was and we were always being charged for 2 table not 1 and 1 free.
Treat your user base with a bit more respect FarSight and dont think you cant pull the wool over our eyes!,....we're not as dumb as you obviously think we are
"For the first two Seasons of the Pinball Arcade we released two tables every month: one new table, and one re-released table from our older Pinball Hall of Fame products. The re-released tables cost us much less to develop than the new tables because the license fees on them were already paid and the art, programming, and sound for them was already done: all that was required was to port them to the new Pinball Arcade physics system. Accordingly, we haven't been charging extra for them- we've included them because we want the Pinball Arcade to include ALL of our tables, not just the new ones.
However, we've now re-released nearly every Pinball Hall of Fame table, so starting in Season Three we are releasing a single new table each month. We've also lowered the price of the Season Three Pack and Season Three Pro Pack to $29.99 and $39.99"
This is obviously Bullcrap and they never were or intended to giving away the 2nd re-released table of each pack as free!, their just saying that now to make it look like their not over charging people now there's only 1 a month. If this was the case and the re-released table was indeed 'free' then how come the purchase price for a season pack has been reduced, it would still be the same price if indeed the re-released table was free....which it never was and we were always being charged for 2 table not 1 and 1 free.
Treat your user base with a bit more respect FarSight and dont think you cant pull the wool over our eyes!,....we're not as dumb as you obviously think we are
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vpalmer
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Lettuce, as long as i know, during first season you could buy tables from packs separatly - so you could buy "free" table without "new" table and if you had pay only for "new" table from pack, then you did not get "free" table from that pack for that price =}
any comments FS? =}
any comments FS? =}
lettuce
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That is also a very good point you make vpalmer
i think the point is if farsight had to redevlop the rereleases from scratch table packs would have been somewhat more expensive mostoy likely double the current price.
people needa loose the mobile software is cheap mentallity. play a real machine and five bucks doesnt last long.
the wording if the facebook post might be marketing speak but people see conspriacy where yhere is none lol.
come on guys
people needa loose the mobile software is cheap mentallity. play a real machine and five bucks doesnt last long.
the wording if the facebook post might be marketing speak but people see conspriacy where yhere is none lol.
come on guys
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