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  1. trash80

    The Pinball Show

    Zen has already announced that changes in monetization and business model are coming this year. Why announce a change if everything was going to remain the way it currently is? The official dev statement you are referring to was regarding whether Steam would get the new Pinball FX and also...
  2. trash80

    The Pinball Show

    You should pay attention to the history of Zen Studios for possible future guidance. Do you remember the FX2 to FX3 transition? While they use official polls and direct user and sales feedback to dictate their path forward, Zen's business and development cycle is 18+ months out, and many of the...
  3. trash80

    The Pinball Show

    It was too late over a year ago... You really needed to have the ad generated mobile revenue be a bust for us to not be having this conversation. Zen (and most software compaines) do not look at outside forum polls for guidance of their business model. Plus this new cycle of Pinball FX has been...
  4. trash80

    The Pinball Show

    Shutyertrap is privy to some Zen information that has not yet been made public. However, specifics and dates may change and even deals fall through. Anyway... It would be nice to post official answers to: 1. Will Steam be a storefront for Pinball FX (4)? 2. Will currently owned DLC carry over...
  5. trash80

    The Pinball Show

    Zen is not "smallish," they are a wholly owned subsidiary of Embracer Group which is the largest publicly traded European video game company in existence. Much of what we are seeing from Zen, like VR, new (unannounced) IP, and the brand new upcoming edition of Pinball FX are due to the capital...
  6. trash80

    The Pinball Show

    With the way that Star Wars VR is being announced, it seems that the two new Star Wars tables may NOT be coming to Pinball FX 3, or at least not until after April 29th. "Star Wars Pinball VR launches April 29 with eight amazing tables: The Mandalorian and Star Wars Classic Collectibles – two...
  7. trash80

    Arcade1Up Pinball; Almost Good

    Well considering that almost all of the manufactured tables coming to North America ended up in the ocean, I wouldn't expect any tables to be delivered until April or later. Have you actually tried to pre-order one of these? I'm assuming you are looking at the Brick webpage.
  8. trash80

    The Random Thought Thread

    I haven't pulled any of my amps out of storage for a long time. These days I am 100% software (STL Tones and Helix Native) on a laptop and just running through the board when playing out. The only hardware I need is a floor based switching system, but that isn't really necessary anymore either...
  9. trash80

    Zen Studios acquired by Embracer Group

    You are soured on a business that is doing everything they can to be a growing and successful endeavor for both employees and customers alike? Well, to each their own... and while there are things about Zen that I am no fan of, I'm still glad they continue to build the pinball products that they...
  10. trash80

    Zen Studios acquired by Embracer Group

    There had been some chatter in late 2019/early 2020 that Zen Studios was possibly looking for outside investment. Embracer Group (THQ Nordic) acquired Zen Studios a few months ago and placed them with one of their (now 7) business management and operational tiers. However, it is unlikely that...
  11. trash80

    Zen Studios acquired by Embracer Group

    No. It says Gearbox received (newly created) Embracer B shares and cash totaling 363 million. Gearbox continues to have a "stake" in the success of GEARBOX, as over the next 6 years this is estimated to be a 1 billion + deal based on projected future GEARBOX performance. There isn't any mention...
  12. trash80

    Zen Studios acquired by Embracer Group

    This has little to no impact on Zen's current or future business. The way this is structured is Gearbox becomes the seventh independent publishing and operating group within the Embracer Group. This seems to be a cash injection for Gearbox and an IP grab for Embracer. When you consider that...
  13. trash80

    The Pinball Show

    That reddit thread (and a couple others) about the Pinball Show is more informative than the Pinball Show was. Some interesting info via comments from the Zen team. 1. Pro Physics (naming convention used for the WMS physics in the phone app) is something they are working on bringing to the...
  14. trash80

    Your reaction if the new Pinball FX reboot requires a subscription on PC / console

    Zen may be using Unreal Engine for the next Pinball FX NEW (4) game. If this is the case, I suppose there could be some platform agnostic events and things, but I guess we will have to wait and see.
  15. trash80

    Your reaction if the new Pinball FX reboot requires a subscription on PC / console

    Except they aren't. Each version is a separate development fork and each have their own unique features and bugs. We could also go down the rabbit hole of frame rates, response time, frame buffering, input lag, bluetooth, etc., that is different on each platform if you like. If you think about...
  16. trash80

    Your reaction if the new Pinball FX reboot requires a subscription on PC / console

    Various ecosystem leaderboards and achievements are not something that is shared like that. I suppose there could be be some sort of hub or portal where Zen may aggregate your multiple console accounts into a single user history, but then for what purpose when all the bragging rights are really...
  17. trash80

    The Pinball Show

    Because if they are adding new "non-traditional pinball" features, they are not building new traditional tables. Things like Pinball Battle Royale (or Rocket League of Fortnite Legends) may end up being great fun, but if it succeeds, why would Zen divert development from that back to developing...
  18. trash80

    Your reaction if the new Pinball FX reboot requires a subscription on PC / console

    If you mean a single profile that shares DLC ownership/access, well you can't do that with a single login that spans multiple ecosystems. The various digital rights (console, game storefronts) platforms do not allow credential sharing between systems outside of their own. Also, different IP...
  19. trash80

    The Pinball Show

    So the Fortnite and Asian market demographic. Enough said. You know, you can't be everything to everyone and there is a very real chance that with this systematic pivot, you alienate the very people that put you in the position that you are currently in and ultimately you may end up with zero...
  20. trash80

    Your reaction if the new Pinball FX reboot requires a subscription on PC / console

    If we are talking only about consoles and PC, there will probably be exclusive DLC access via the platform specific game pass subscription. I'd also expect some type of season pass DLC model as well. If Zen actually implements the WMS physics onto the specific original tables they bring over to...

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