It's one of those situation where ANY developer could step in and steal the market by raising the quality bar and being communicative, but it won't happen because the market isn't worth pursuing. FS just stepped in to fill a void and now we are all at their mercy. It's them or nothing.
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It's one of those situation where ANY developer could step in and steal the market by raising the quality bar and being communicative, but it won't happen because the market isn't worth pursuing. FS just stepped in to fill a void and now we are all at their mercy. It's them or nothing.
Trenchbroom
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One company has the exclusive license to recreate Williams, Bally, Gottlieb, and Stern tables. No competition in the marketplace; if you want to play these classic tables, this is the only option (yeah I know VB, fanboy homemade copies do not count).
It's called a monopoly. No reason to do anything but the bare minimum to serve your customers when you are (quoting The Flintstones here) "The only caterer in town". Sucks, but there it is.
It's called a monopoly. No reason to do anything but the bare minimum to serve your customers when you are (quoting The Flintstones here) "The only caterer in town". Sucks, but there it is.
wolfson
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I look at it at it in a different light,there are about 5 tables I have trouble with.i say **** happens I`ve got 67 other tables.i know it gives us all the wobbles !!! on bright note I pre ordered Horizon 3 Ultimate,can`t wait.it`s set in my area, I`m just down the road from Surfers Paradise,at Tweed Heads right next to Coolie.my daughter lives across the Tweed river from me.am I happy ? you betcha little booties I am !!!!!! one funny thing I noticed,they dragged the 12 Apostles from Victoria to just outside Byron Bay.game look bloody stunning !!!! 
I look at it at it in a different light,there are about 5 tables I have trouble with.i say **** happens I`ve got 67 other tables.i know it gives us all the wobbles !!! on bright note I pre ordered Horizon 3 Ultimate,can`t wait.it`s set in my area, I`m just down the road from Surfers Paradise,at Tweed Heads right next to Coolie.my daughter lives across the Tweed river from me.am I happy ? you betcha little booties I am !!!!!! one funny thing I noticed,they dragged the 12 Apostles from Victoria to just outside Byron Bay.game look bloody stunning !!!!
Your outlook conveniently ignores that TPA has a host of bugs, many of them platform-specific, on each platform it is available on. You've got 5 buggy tables? That's nice. Someone else has 10. Some platforms don't have leaderboards. Some have audio issues on EVERY TABLE. iOS has a compatibility issue causing frame-hitching and stutters on EVERY TABLE.
This all in addition to a lot of missing features and polish. Mobile and consoles still don't have 3.0 flipper physics implemented on most pre-Xenon tables. Where's the new (hideous) UI?
Pinballwiz45b
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Again, time to step up your game. Look at Zaccaria's fixes, compared to every releaase of one table each month on Pinball Arcade:
http://steamcommunity.com/games/444930/announcements
Heck, it took them 15 minutes to fix one crash!
http://steamcommunity.com/app/444930/discussions/0/358415103478607743/
http://steamcommunity.com/games/444930/announcements
Heck, it took them 15 minutes to fix one crash!
http://steamcommunity.com/app/444930/discussions/0/358415103478607743/
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FS is too busy making SPA for more platforms. It's been two weeks since it was stealth released on GearVR and there hasn't been a single patch to improve performance on the three busted tables they are charging $5/each for.
wolfson
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HotHamBoy,i understand,i`m just saying only for myself,not for the rest of you.i have 6 platforms,i go from one to the other.my expectations are not the same as everyone else.it`s the same for all my car racing games.i have most of them on PS3,PS4 and XBOX 1,people complain all the time about them.i don`t stress myself over any game.enjoy !!!
dave950lam
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And don't forget, MS won't allow patches, What's up with that? We're stuck with the way Black Knight plays.
DopedToInfinity
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Apple and Sony DO allow patches and we are still stuck with the way Black Knight plays!
Mark Miwurdz
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This sounds like nonsense. Plenty of games get patches on both consoles.
dave950lam
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It would be cool if patches weren't charged, but I could see game makers abusing that policy...
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Shaneus
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Holy ****. There really is no excuse then for Farsight to not be updating PC tables. And also updating the flipper physics for all the old tables on mobile, which they said they would do.
Really debating whether to even bother with buying season passes anymore, might just stick with the odd table here or there unless things *vastly* improve.
AnvilCloud
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I totally hear that. Zaccaria Pinball may not have the cool tournament aspect or the newer tables, but they excel at pretty much everything else(at least for android) - editable camera angles, lightness adjustments, even different sound settings that simulate being in an arcade, thunderstorm, etc. Better value for the money. Less buggy. Again this is for android because that's the only platform I have both on.
TPA just feels amateurish from a programming perspective and from a business perspective. Ignoring your fanbase is never, ever a good idea. Can't stand the new UI or the myriad of bugs it unnecessarily brings. Some of my favorite tables now crash after just 5 minutes of play (RBION for one). Might join you in maybe, I stress maybe, getting a table here or there. And I use to buy full seasons at a crack
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How does FarSight ignore the fan base? They are on this forum all the time. They included us in many decisions the first two years of the game. They still value feedback. Ignoring the fan base is not one of their problems. Implementation of ideas, delays, fixing of bugs, certainly. FarSight's biggest issue has more to do the 'eyes being bigger than the stomach', if you know what I mean.