Mark Miwurdz
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Welcome Back to Digital Pinball Fans - please read this first
Microsoft no longer charges developers to patch their Xbox 360 games.
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Mark Miwurdz
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No excuse to not patch the game ending bugs (that afflict several tables) now. Yeah, right!
I came here to post this.
This is huge for Farsight. They stand to mike quite a bit more money now without ever having to worry about update fees eating into their profits. It's big for us because we won't have to wait months for them to add DLC packs together. It will mean regular updates just like PS3 get's now.
This is huge for Farsight. They stand to mike quite a bit more money now without ever having to worry about update fees eating into their profits. It's big for us because we won't have to wait months for them to add DLC packs together. It will mean regular updates just like PS3 get's now.
What's Microsoft's policy on this? Hopefully it's not the same as PS3 (doesn't allow patches for DLC).
- Mar 17, 2012
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Well, except that little Crave bankruptcy thing...
Mark Miwurdz
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When that's all sorted.
Daniel Osborne
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is the terminator 2 licence 40k lower now then ?
grashopper
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No.
FarSight pays all the normal development stuff like buying the table making it in game and releasing it for the Kickstarters. The only money they are asking for is to pay for the rights to the movie, actors, music for that table. Not for the entire development.
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Not sure why FS doesnt just re-release TPA with their new Developer minus the games that have been released on the 360 platform already, and then sort out a way to give the tables that xbox user have bought from the old TPA game!!??
Least this way us 360 user can get the table now
Least this way us 360 user can get the table now
Lord Boron
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Because a bankruptcy court would never let them circumvent thier contract like that. The contract is an asset, and all assets are tied up in court.
xAzatothx
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this is needed badly. Without table fixes / updates, I'd probably just stick to playing on android.
brakel
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What's interesting is that it specifically says "title updates". Does that mean that they will charge for DLC updates?
SKILL_SHOT
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take THAT SONY! 
Take that sony?
I like the Xbox, but Microsoft still insists publishers publishing Disc and Xbox Live Arcade titles to require a publisher. Granted, Xbox Live Indie Arcade does not require a publisher, but there are limits in what XBLIA can do. (And Sony is copying XBLIA for the PS4 - XBLIA has been a way to allow "homebrew" games on the Xbox360).
Of course, part of the $40k was a punitive fee for poor QA testing. Remember what happened on iOS? The version before current was released on Friday (Issue #1 - never EVER release software on a Friday afternoon. Everyone who does software development knows that). Of course, it crashed on iOS 5.1 devices and got killed for it on the weeked it was live but before FarSight could post an expedited update (which is allowed for crashes). Microsoft prefers everything on its systems work, so games on there should work without crashing and burning in normal operation.
I believe a title update includes DLC as well. Just hope FarSight tries to not abuse the opportunity. Then again, perhaps the pressure's now on the publisher to help with QA testing.
Edit: Interestingly, Microsoft says they removed the fees as of April 2013, BEFORE the Xbox One reveal.
I like the Xbox, but Microsoft still insists publishers publishing Disc and Xbox Live Arcade titles to require a publisher. Granted, Xbox Live Indie Arcade does not require a publisher, but there are limits in what XBLIA can do. (And Sony is copying XBLIA for the PS4 - XBLIA has been a way to allow "homebrew" games on the Xbox360).
Of course, part of the $40k was a punitive fee for poor QA testing. Remember what happened on iOS? The version before current was released on Friday (Issue #1 - never EVER release software on a Friday afternoon. Everyone who does software development knows that). Of course, it crashed on iOS 5.1 devices and got killed for it on the weeked it was live but before FarSight could post an expedited update (which is allowed for crashes). Microsoft prefers everything on its systems work, so games on there should work without crashing and burning in normal operation.
I believe a title update includes DLC as well. Just hope FarSight tries to not abuse the opportunity. Then again, perhaps the pressure's now on the publisher to help with QA testing.
Edit: Interestingly, Microsoft says they removed the fees as of April 2013, BEFORE the Xbox One reveal.
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Yeah, no kidding.
brakel
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Sony makes a big difference in Title and DLC in that they allow Title updates but not for DLC. So on the PS3 we can not have fixes to tables that have been released. I really want to make an informed decision for the next generation. I guess I was assuming that this announcement was a general policy shift by MS and not just for the 360. So, maybe they will still charge for title updates on the One?
Mike Reitmeyer
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DLC Submissions were always free (no QA cause it doesn't involve code/executable). It isn't possible to update DLC on Xbox 360, or at least in any way I've been able to find. And I can't get a good answer from dev support on how to do it.