Snorzel
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Agreed: Many shots are way too easy (vacuum suck / railroad return to flipper), other shots are seemingly "unavailable" from cradle position. We need vastly increased resolution of flipper/ball contact points upon flip.
Re: Ball Spin. I play VP10 daily and love the community. I don't gripe about physics over there out of respect for the volunteer nature of the scene. That said, many of us feel the ball spin, while an essential part of realism, is just way too much in VP10. The ball takes lots of strange lateral archs and curveballs that only happen occasionally at really high speeds on newer real Sterns in my experience. I dial down gravity and table friction to compensate, but this introduces new undesirable effects like floatiness if it's overdone. Tough to get a balance!
I'd love to see ball spin incorporated in SPA / TPA, but at a lesser degree of intensity than the VP10 model.
Snorzel - What do you think of ball spin on Zacc?
I am not as knowledgeable on the technical aspects as many of you guys who are keeping this thread going, but for me the ball spin on Zac works pretty good but it too could use some tweaking. Early on, it seemed a ball could still be spinning even when it came to rest on a flipper. I would think that any contact with rubber features would have added friction compared to when the ball contacts just the playfield, plastic or metal surfaces. This seems to have improved but I will have to try it and pay close attention.
On the topic of ball / rubber friction, with pro pinball, I have had the ball kinda 'stick' to the flipper rather than bounce off the way I would normally expect. Its differnt than the TPA dead stop that occasionally happens but still weird imo.
Robobot has some pretty impressive physics, I wish they would put it to use on more new tables and refine it a bit.
[MENTION=2638]shaderbytes[/MENTION] Elvis Pinball has some pretty impressive physics too IMO, if you have not give it a try. Ball spin seems pretty dang good, have not played this one as much as I would like:
http://digitalpinballfans.com/showt...ike-you-have-never-seen-it-before-have-a-look
Also, Its awesome that Mike commented on the subject, I hope he or any other Farsight guys keep the dialogue going with us on this one
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