In his last Q and A, Bobby said they were tweaking the physics and are looking to incorporate new features like improved flipper interaction, but only on the new tables. The already-released ones will not be updated. Now, naturally, they are making the top machines first, but what this will mean is that the best machines, such as MM, TZ, STTNG, TOM, and countless others will end up with the worst physics and unrealistic elements (like flippers), and later, inferior machines will play much better. A top 100 list, if voted on by people who only played the TPA version would end up exactly the opposite, with TZ, STTNG, and MM towards the bottom, and Bone Busters and Mousin' Around at the top!
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Having just looked at the Q&A #5 thread, I'm not seeing where Bobby said that the older tables would not get updated physics. I see where he said that mobile devices might not get improved physics due to frame rate issues, but not anything about older tables. Can you enlighten me as to where Bobby said that older tables would not get newer physics?
squidlr
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It's sad that Farsight concentrate on developing and selling new tables, and don't really try hard to improve the older ones. On the Mac, Blackhole has poor lighting, and the graphics are messy on some tables (Octagonal bumbers CFTBL). They are shooting themselves in the foot, because a top quality polished product will gather respect and sell more in the long run.
Matt McIrvin
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Medieval Madness and Black Hole just did get improved physics in the last Android release. It may not have been all the improvement they're planning on for the future, but it was significant.
superballs
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Very significant updates on Black Hole and MM.
Drop catches, live catches and the like are actually feasable. Still not there with some of the more subtle moves but it's getting there
Drop catches, live catches and the like are actually feasable. Still not there with some of the more subtle moves but it's getting there
Not sure where you read this. I'm calling bs on it. When flipper physic improvements come it's coming to all tables. As others have pointed out they are still making improvements to old tables. Pointed out above me Black Hole just got a nice patch and that's a launch table. Btw fantastic work on that one you can tell it is MUCH more accurate they even updated the sound and music too to be closer to the arcade. All it needs now is the animated back glass and its complete
atm just mobile platofrms dude but others will be updated in time
Thanks. Good to know!
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PS3 got a new and improved BH.
I can't find the exact post, but I remember Bobby mentioned that improving the flipper physics would require them to make changes to the general physics on a per table basis. To do so for older tables would not make sense financially.
night
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How old is TPA? 10, 11 months? 'Older' tables are not interesting to fix because it would not make sense financially? Some great investment, TPA games.. So the Twilight Zone will be obsolete in 10 months from now.
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I think this is probably the post Richard B is referencing:
http://digitalpinballfans.com/showt...g-answering-questions-on-the-Playstation-Blog
...but don't read too much into it because, as we've seen with BH and MM, they are going back and tuning the older tables, especially as the tournament mode is progressing.
http://digitalpinballfans.com/showt...g-answering-questions-on-the-Playstation-Blog
...but don't read too much into it because, as we've seen with BH and MM, they are going back and tuning the older tables, especially as the tournament mode is progressing.
Sumez
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More realistic physics etc. will serve the purpose of faithfully recreating the tables. And with some luck, the difficulty will be closer to authentic as well, and fans of the real tables will be pleased.
But I'm not expecting this improvement to actually improve the perceived quality of the table. "People who only played the TPA version" won't like TZ or MM better because of a difference in the physics, which are already pretty good to begin with (in my opinion), and those tables are great because of their design, which is recreated quite well on the existing ones.
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Both TOTAN and MM received physics tweaks in today's iOS update. The ball is definitely less bouncy and the flippers feel like the have more friction. Those are the only two older tables I've tried so far.
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Fungi
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How are you pulling yourself away from TNG to test these? Aside from visiting here, I can't stop playing it.