Williams' Collection Volume 6 guesses

[HighFive]

Zen already switched to Epic. The last three Zen game releases: Operancia, Dread Nautical, and Castlestorm II were all Epic Store exclusives. A Zen rep posted last year in the Steam forum that the future FX3 DLC packs scheduled for release would not be exclusive to Epic. The speculation is that Zen may go timed exclusive for the next iteration of their main Pinball game, this may also include exclusive original design third-party IP table packs for Xbox or PS5 just like they have done in the past.

The way it could happen and facilitate the investment required is they release specific editions for each 'next gen' platform and name them accordingly and have each include a unique to that platform initial free table. So on the PS5 you get a FTP God of War table, and Xbox you get a FTP Halo table and on Epic it could be a FTP Fortnite table. Then most previous DLC will be upgraded to 120+fps, 4k+, raytracing and VR capable without requiring us to repurchase DLC in the Xbox or PS stores. I suppose the Epic store will only have in-game DLC purchasing, so maybe Zen will associate previous PC purchases to a Zen account on the PC, but considering everything that is being done to remaster these tables for next gen, maybe we will all need to repurchase and Zen could provide us with some loyalty discount or something. Honestly, we already have many of us that have purchased the DLC on multiple platforms, so why not another?

Oh wow, pardon my ignorance, didnt knew Zen already was having exclusive stuff on Epic store. But for pinball, not sure it is a great idea to have specific dlc on each platforms. Im just not also seeing Epic as strong as Steam, perhaps they take way less royalty than Steam, but, if as example FX4 was a Epic exclusive, sure pinball fans would download it to get it, i would, but im not just a fan of the client, interface. Having everything in Steam seem the way to go for me.

 

[wolfson]

Really hope from now on we will get one unreleased table per new pack. It will be a better reason to buy the packs. I mesn, im enjoying all packs so far, got them on Switch, but now knowing something new is coming is very exciting! Bad Cats incoming next?

i`m with you HighFive , that would be great .

 

[rehtroboi40]

The guy who posted said it was Space Station, not Space Shuttle, which means something unreleased by Farsight!!!

I'm all in for volume 6. Space Station was one of my more wanted tables in TPA. Although I won't say no to Funhouse (one of my personal faves)-hopefully it's not too easy as it was in TPA.

#1 IN ALL WORLDS!

 

[1adam12]

I'm all in also! I only have to make one big decision. Switch or Steam? I love the look and play on the PC, and right now I only have the switch handheld but might get the console. This pack looks too good to pass up!

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[yespage]

I'm all in also! I only have to make one big decision. Switch or Steam? I love the look and play on the PC, and right now I only have the switch handheld but might get the console. This pack looks too good to pass up!

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Doesn't sound like a decision. Playing pinball on a small screen isn't much fun. I hope that the future continues to be 1 prime, 1 other, 1 retro table.

 

[1adam12]

Doesn't sound like a decision. Playing pinball on a small screen isn't much fun. I hope that the future continues to be 1 prime, 1 other, 1 retro table.

I have to agree with you, but there's something so satisfying about using the trigger buttons in landscape mode. The bonus is that is also does portrait mode, so that helps. I also really enjoy the experience.
But.... Steam will likely win out. Using my laptop is a bit clunkier, but it's worth it if the end experience is fun!

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[karussellbremser]

Also keep in mind that the console versions (including Switch) of the WMS tables are censored, so PC should be the better choice.

 

[1adam12]

Also keep in mind that the console versions (including Switch) of the WMS tables are censored, so PC should be the better choice.

I had heard of the censoring but didn't realize it differed by platform. Thanks!

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[wilbers]

There is an option in the Steam version to disable/enable the censoring on the Williams tables and that isn't in any of the console versions.

 

[wilbers]

Same channel that does the amazing Marblelympics.

The marbles are back, now they are for the high jump

Reached the heady heights where they are getting serious sponsorship now https://decider.com/2020/06/18/last-week-tonight-john-oliver-marble-league/

 

[warh0g]

When is it coming out? I need some new tables stat!

 

[Lroy]

I know, can’t believe how long it feels since we had new tables to play. This wait is excruciating. Really hope I enjoy the tables when they come after all this anticipation, lol!


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[PinJimmy]

When is it coming out? I need some new tables stat!

Soon.

 

[Narc0lep5y]

Pack 6 Announced on 8/1. It’s 9/10 and no release date. Something is just weird there. Isn’t this exactly why Zen says they hold announcements back so they don’t do this?

On another note. 10/9/18 was the release date of Williams pack 1. We’re less than 30 days away from the 2 year anniversary. Anyone remember what the timing on those Farsight deals with scientific games were? 2 years? I think it was number of titles based too. Think contract negotiations / renegotiations could be a reason for the delays? Nothing on that AFM 1up machine since January too. Hmmmmm

 

[Pete]

oh jeez lol... could you imagine zen losing williams/farsight and a 3rd friggin company starting over again... ahhhhhhhhh calgone take me away

 

[Gorgias32]

Oo this is a great line of conjecture - maybe Farsight will get the license back!

 

[Canned Tuna]

Pack 6 Announced on 8/1. It’s 9/10 and no release date. Something is just weird there.

Very weird, indeed. When I first heard the rumours about the problems with the alphanumeric displays I knew that something was fishy. Don't all 90's Williams machines use variations of the same WPC MPU to control the displays? The DMDs work by forming graphics with energized dots, the alphanumeric displays work by forming text with energized segments. Same controller, almost same concept, only a lot simpler with the alphanumerics. None of this makes any sense.

 

[yespage]

I'm pretty certain it is all a grand conspiracy and has nothing to do with restricted access to resources and labor due to a pandemic.

 

[shutyertrap]

The Williams license isn’t going anywhere, let’s just shut that down right now. I’m privy to info I can’t share, but that I can say without fear of legal reprisal.

 

[Lroy]

I’m certainly not feeling hyped anymore. Far too long now since Volume 5 was released. Whatever is causing this delay with new tables being released, I think Zen could have done a far better job at conveying that to their customers.

If it’s a coding/development problem tell us that. If it’s because they have/are taking a strategically decided break from doing any more table packs to focus on something else full-time, such as these Arcade1up cabs or to develop PBFX3/4 for the new Microsoft/Sony console instead, tell us that in plain language.

I think now, I’d just prefer 1 new table a month or however long it takes (6 weeks I think was once the aim?) rather than such spread out table packs.

I definitely can do without anymore trailers or teasers revealing a release date for Volume 6. As far as that ‘coming soon’ pack goes, I just want Zen to tell us on the day it is up for purchase and ‘out now’.

I actually wish there were another company putting out real-life digital pinball recreations - perhaps the Stern back catalogue inclusive of Sega and Data East for example. With FarSight seemingly departed and MagicPixel not updating the Switch with any additional tables or acquiring any other licences, from my little inconsequential side of the fence, Zen have actually got a monopoly which they need to expand their staff then to maximise.

I’m boring myself, rant over.


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