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Yeah, I guess I was talking more about the 360 version of PHOF. I also got the turbo flipper issue on PS3.

It's so weird because PHOF was such a great product. The same company is making Pinball Arcade, but the quality is nowhere near as good.

The physics in Taxi PS3 seem pretty good.

I don't know why I'm still surprised when Farsight screws up these updates again and again. It's like no one even looked at Genie before they published it.

Xbox 360 is the best version by a mile, for the tables (except Monster Bash) that it has.

Yeah, holy **** Genie is bright. It's hard to see table features.

The two stage flippers on PS3 are really annoying. I use an xbox 360 controller with an adapter now (where the RB/LB buttons aren't analog) so I don't have to deal with it anymore.

The Pinball Arcade is a great game, but the amount of bugs in it is ridiculous. 7 months after it has released, you still can't play Cirqus Voltaire on Xbox or PS3 without risking the camera getting stuck on the backboard and not letting you see what you are doing until your balls have drained...

Issues with the camera getting stuck on something and not looking at the table while you're playing has only been an issue for the last six months or so. That's no reason for Farsight not to continue releasing tables with the exact same unfixed bug six months later. It's gone through testing, so...

Does the testing consist of someone saying, "You can't see what you're doing on this table. Good enough!" and then approving it?

The camera staying zoomed in on the Star Trek TNG plunger instead of the playfield literally happens about half the time I start a multiball mode. After having ST:TNG for about a day and a half it has happened to me 8 times. Sometimes the camera returns to the playfield after a few seconds, and...

That's all pretty accurate to the real TNG table from what I remember.

After playing some more Star Trek, the camera gets stuck zoomed in on the plunger sometimes in both Ferengi and Borg multiball modes so you can't see what you are doing.

The background images for each table in the new menu are stretched horizontally for widescreen.

In this update, Star Trek TNG has a camera glitch where you start Duranium Spheres multiball, and the camera moves down to the plunger and doesn't go back to the playfield.

The menu to select tables is a heck of a lot more functional than the old one. That's the most important thing, even if the new menu graphics look kind of cheap.

Did you find a good controller to use on PS3? I've been playing the PS3 version recently and I'm not that happy with the default controller so I'm looking for other options. kimkom mentioned a Pinwiz thread discussing this, but I couldn't find the thread.

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You can get troll bombs the same way you light trolls. When they're already lit, just hit the yellow standup target 8 more times. If you're talking about troll combos, those are nice to get but I don't specifically try for them.

I've been playing CftBL on PS3 for less than a day and this has already happened to me five times. The last time, as others have said, it was the ball coming down from the spiral thing that raises the multiplier during multiball - went straight through the raised right flipper. Right after that...