Mark Miwurdz
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Nice one.
con: I don't remember for sure but I seem to recall that a 1T score is impossible on STTNG, at least on some platforms.
con: He put up nine of his top-12 scores in a 4-day span between 2014-10-03 and 2014-10-07.
Gotcha, thanks. What I couldn't remember or didn't know is if TPA always rejected the 1T rollover for some or all platforms.But we don't know if TPA categorically can't recognize a trillion rollover, or if it just failed to detect it in each case as can happen for known missable rollovers like CFTBL jackpots.
Here are all of his current high scores (in the top 10,000 or so):What exactly are those scores? This we actually could disprove, if the cumulative time necessary to earn those scores on the tables literally doesn't fit into 4 days.
ID TABLE | RANK | SCORE | DATE | ORANK | USERNAME |
19 STTNG | 1 | 1,890,199,057,550 | 2014-02-25 | 1 | www.vpforums.org |
20 AFM | 7 | 644,245,109,590 | 2014-02-25 | 2 | www.vpforums.org |
30 CP | 13 | 1,519,065,310 | 2014-02-25 | 5 | www.vpforums.org |
29 Pin*Bot | 18 | 37,236,730 | 2014-02-25 | 10 | www.vpforums.org |
27 SpSh | 26 | 12,563,870 | 2014-02-25 | 11 | www.vpforums.org |
42 BRose | 29 | 2,034,725,710 | 2014-02-25 | 12 | www.vpforums.org |
41 FT | 34 | 1,823,610,490 | 2014-02-25 | 7 | www.vpforums.org |
17 SS | 39 | 1,763,648,290 | 2014-02-25 | 23 | www.vpforums.org |
1 RBioN | 87 | 1,973,748,810 | 2014-02-25 | 74 | www.vpforums.org |
43 BK2K | 1 | 71,200,687,840 | 2014-10-07 | 1 | www.vpforums.org |
25 CentPark | 6 | 16,899 | 2014-10-07 | 5 | www.vpforums.org |
3 BH | 6 | 136,951,830 | 2014-10-07 | 6 | www.vpforums.org |
33 GoinNuts | 7 | 13,942,700 | 2014-10-07 | 5 | www.vpforums.org |
21 Genie | 7 | 10,082,510 | 2014-10-07 | 5 | www.vpforums.org |
23 FirePwr | 7 | 6,596,640 | 2014-10-07 | 5 | www.vpforums.org |
16 BigShot | 9 | 1,489,570 | 2014-10-07 | 7 | www.vpforums.org |
9 Gorgar | 9 | 11,631,890 | 2014-10-07 | 8 | www.vpforums.org |
ID TABLE | RANK | SCORE | DATE | ORANK | USERNAME |
11 BK | 12 | 219,875,640 | 2014-10-07 | 11 | www.vpforums.org |
35 HH | 24115 | 20,430 | 2014-10-07 | 18193 | www.vpforums.org |
mysql> select * from tpa_leaderboard where username='www.vpforums.org' and date >= '2014-10-03' and date < '2014-10-07';
+---------+----------------+------+------------------+---------------+------------+
| tableid | tableabbr | rank | username | score | date |
+---------+----------------+------+------------------+---------------+------------+
| 1 | Ripleys | 83 | www.vpforums.org | 1973748810 | 2014-10-03 |
| 3 | BlkHole | 12 | www.vpforums.org | 45708460 | 2014-10-03 |
| 9 | Gorgar | 23 | www.vpforums.org | 3466590 | 2014-10-03 |
| 11 | BlackKnight | 18 | www.vpforums.org | 123973970 | 2014-10-03 |
| 16 | BigShot | 31 | www.vpforums.org | 600080 | 2014-10-03 |
| 17 | ElviraSS | 31 | www.vpforums.org | 1763648290 | 2014-10-03 |
| 19 | StarTrekTNG | 1 | www.vpforums.org | 1890199057550 | 2014-10-03 |
| 20 | AttackFromMars | 4 | www.vpforums.org | 644245109590 | 2014-10-03 |
| 21 | Genie | 9 | www.vpforums.org | 5827550 | 2014-10-03 |
| 23 | FirePwr | 11 | www.vpforums.org | 4595110 | 2014-10-03 |
| 25 | CentralPark | 15 | www.vpforums.org | 9017 | 2014-10-03 |
| 27 | SpaceShuttle | 17 | www.vpforums.org | 12563870 | 2014-10-03 |
| 29 | PinBot | 17 | www.vpforums.org | 37236730 | 2014-10-03 |
| 30 | ChampionPub | 10 | www.vpforums.org | 1519065310 | 2014-10-03 |
| 41 | FishTales | 22 | www.vpforums.org | 1823610490 | 2014-10-03 |
| 42 | BlackRose | 24 | www.vpforums.org | 2034725710 | 2014-10-03 |
+---------+----------------+------+------------------+---------------+------------+
16 rows in set (0.05 sec)
I would like to know this too! Data like how many hours it takes to get a top 500, top 100, top 20, #1 score, per table.One question, can anyone estimate with a reasonable accuracy the length of time it would take for achieving a high leaderboard score? Perhaps farsight can list a game play length time along with a leaderboard score. Would be interesting if I knew I'd have to commit 40 hours of game play to get a high score on NGG, not that it's going to happen anytime soon.
I would like to know this too! Data like how many hours it takes to get a top 500, top 100, top 20, #1 score, per table.
I have been recording some of my game times lately. I should start taking notes when the top players say how long it took them for a certain score. I know it took me 12 (+/- 1) hrs for my FH 1.193B #7 score.
It would be great if Farsight reported this, but I wouldn't be surprised if game time wasn't stored.
I have been mulling an idea a little bit. Apparently, some people would have even higher scores, but they quit after playing for 5 hr or 15 hr or some other ridiculous amount of time. Perhaps players should not be penalized for doing that. Maybe a good scoring system would treat all scores that took longer than, say, 5 hr, the same. To make that work, one would have to have a good idea of what a "typical" score by a player (playing a good strategy) had after 5 hr, for each table. Well, I don't know if it's a good idea. Probably the feedback here should be limited to players who can actually play that long on a regular basis .
Ok, that doesn't rule out legitimacy. All those are possible within a few hours each. Frankly they do look legit, unless it does turn out that a trillion on STTNG is impossible to recognize except by hacking.Gotcha, thanks. What I couldn't remember or didn't know is if TPA always rejected the 1T rollover for some or all platforms.
Here are all of his current high scores (in the top 10,000 or so):
I did try to propose such a thing this thread months ago. I'm all for it. Just let the top players agree among themselves when to consider a table infinityable and beaten.I have been mulling an idea a little bit. Apparently, some people would have even higher scores, but they quit after playing for 5 hr or 15 hr or some other ridiculous amount of time. Perhaps players should not be penalized for doing that. Maybe a good scoring system would treat all scores that took longer than, say, 5 hr, the same.
I would like to know this too! Data like how many hours it takes to get a top 500, top 100, top 20, #1 score, per table.
*snip*
Here's a rough rundown based on my memory, of what I've done and a decent guess at top ten. Only covers tables I've done so not most of seasons 3-4.
AFM: 4 hours for my 856M, 3 hours for top ten 589M
Big Shot: 1 hour for my 937K and top ten 1300K
Black Hole: 6-7 hours for my 191M, 4 hours for top ten 89M
Black Knight: 5-6 hours for my 125M, 10+ hours for top ten 229M
BSD: 1.5 hours for my 40B, 1 hour for top ten 24B
Bride: who the hell knows, at least 12 hours, everybody goes infinite here
Cactus Canyon: 3 hours for my 2.2B, 1.5 hours for top ten 1.2B
Centaur: 5 hours for my 136M, 2-3 hours for top ten 48M
Central Park: 30 minutes for my 8500 and top ten 10500
Champion Pub: 3 hours for my 5.3B, 1 hour for top ten 1.8B
Cirqus Voltaire: 3-4 hours for my 1B and top ten 940M
Class of 1812: 2 hours for my 267M, 1.5 hours for top ten 162M
CFTBL: 6-8 hours for my 278B, 2-3 hours top ten for 92B
CBW: 1.5 hours for my 3.2B, don't really know about top ten at 7.2B
Dr Dude: 3-4 hours for my 680M, under 1 hour for top ten at 110M
El Dorado: 1.5 hours for my 8M, 1 hour for top ten at 4.5M
Elvira: 3-4 hours for my 801M, 2-3 hours for top ten at 528M
Firepower: 1.5 hours for my 7.7M and top ten at 5M
Flight 2000: 1 hour for my 14M and top ten at 11M
Funhouse: 6-8 hours for my 3B, 2-3 hours for top ten at 1B
Genie: 1 hour for my 4.5M, 1.5 hours for top ten at 6.6M
Goin Nuts: 2-3 hours for my 11M and top ten at 12M (very rough, I really don't remember playing this one)
Gorgar: 1 hour for my 3.3M, (rough guess) 3 hours for top ten at 10M
Harley: 2-3 hours for my 2.4B, 2 hours for top ten at 1.5B
Haunted House: 2 hours for my 6M and top ten at 4.5M
Medieval Madness: 6 hours for my 8B, 8-10 hours for top ten at 10B (somewhat unsure as I only played Castle Multiball and not sure if the BFTK route scores faster)
Monster Bash: 4 hours for my 41B, 2.5 hours for top ten at 12B (this table scores progressively with Monsters of Rock values)
NGG: 6-8 hours for my 41B, 4 hours for top ten at 6.5B (also progressive scoring)
Pinbot: 3 hours for my 98M, 1.5 hours for top ten at 43M
Ripley's: 4-6 hours for my 24B, top ten is way bugged out with all the 20B glitch scores
Scared Stiff: 3-4 hours for my 2.3B, must be over 12 hours for top ten at 8B, but how you go that long without a game-killing lost ball I don't know
Space Shuttle: 3-4 hours for my 72M, 1.5 or so for top ten at 20M
STTNG: 4-5 hours for my score (says 950M but was actually 1950M) and top ten at 586M
TOTAN: screw this crap
Taxi: 3 hours for my 126M, 1.5 hours for top ten at 65M
Teed Off: really don't remember this one, times vary wildly based on whether you hit some of the multi-billion modes and the doubling
Terminator 2: 4-5 hours for my 20B, 2 hours for top ten at 6B, but you could go faster if you are accurate at never missing when grinding chase loops
Theatre: 3 hours for my 47B and top ten at 28B
Twilight Zone: 12 hours for my 127B, 5-6 hours for top ten at 56B
Victory: 2-3 hours for my 389M and top ten at 293M
Whirlwind: 2-3 hours for my 380M and top ten at 220M
Whitewater: 8-10 hours for my 69B, 3 hours for top ten at 18B
MMMMMMERRRRRRRRRRRRY XXXXXXXXXMASSS!!!!!Here's a rough rundown based on my memory, of what I've done and a decent guess at top ten. Only covers tables I've done so not most of seasons 3-4.
MMMMMMERRRRRRRRRRRRY XXXXXXXXXMASSS!!!!!
Thanks so much for the data! Anyone else want to contribute?
OK, I change my mind then... he's back in. Sorry for the back-and-forth, folks.Ok, that doesn't rule out legitimacy. All those are possible within a few hours each. Frankly they do look legit, unless it does turn out that a trillion on STTNG is impossible to recognize except by hacking.
I remember you proposing it now. Sorry for the forget. I'm game if you guys decide on something.I did try to propose such a thing this thread months ago. I'm all for it. Just let the top players agree among themselves when to consider a table infinityable and beaten.
I don't know how you have the stamina for those runs.
Although I have to do some serious back-extrapolation (intrapolation? ) to reduce VikingErik's scores to my more modest scores, a quick math shows that I have the same point-per-hour going on for most tables.
About that STTNG trillion: VikingErik, does your scoring list not validate the point that it doesn't take trillions? Why would your score not be recognised while it does for the other player?
Well, it's rarely straight through. Often play for an hour or two after work, break for dinner, another hour or two, watch TV for a while, break overnight, and so on. Helps to play on a desktop PC which never has any issue with sleeping or suspending or crashing.