The 12 Days of Christmas:

[lettuce]

Yeah there has been a few nit bits for me mainly the new UI but the majority has been guff, I don't give a flying **** about tournament finishing or starting dates (this stuff is general knowledge if your at all interested in the tournaments).

Surely FS HAS to announce a KickStarter table before the 12 days are up, if they have any intention of releasing a KS table in the next few months!??

 

[xNiCeGuYx]

Wow, day 12 is just meeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh but Pinball After Dark sounds promising.

 

[norbert26]

what is an online "head to head feature" that is mentioned with the after dark pinball app ?

 

[rob3d]

what is an online "head to head feature" that is mentioned with the after dark pinball app ?

I think it's 2 player heads up play. Kinda like Tetris where two people play the same table and you can see the other persons score while you play. Best score at the end of ball wins.

 

[Bowflex]

Yeah there has been a few nit bits for me mainly the new UI but the majority has been guff, I don't give a flying **** about tournament finishing or starting dates (this stuff is general knowledge if your at all interested in the tournaments).

Surely FS HAS to announce a KickStarter table before the 12 days are up, if they have any intention of releasing a KS table in the next few months!??

I wouldn't hold your breath about a kickstart since the 12 days are over and done.

 

[SilverBalls]

Do we really need a Kickstarter? With so many good tables out there why go for expensive licenced tables? More often than not they are not that great anyway and do people really care if something has a commercial theme, and do the commercial themes really sell better? I would have thought most people who don't go for season passes buy a table on the strength of how well the demo plays, not what the licence is.

 

[SKILL_SHOT]

ask STERN that

 

[DanBradford]

Do we really need a Kickstarter? With so many good tables out there why go for expensive licenced tables? More often than not they are not that great anyway

I agree. T2 was an average table, an expensive kickstarter that I had no enthusiasm for and so did not support, and ended in a below-average table that I rarely if ever play. I can think of loads of tables I'd want before we go down that road again.

 

[shutyertrap]

Do we really need a Kickstarter? With so many good tables out there why go for expensive licenced tables? More often than not they are not that great anyway and do people really care if something has a commercial theme, and do the commercial themes really sell better? I would have thought most people who don't go for season passes buy a table on the strength of how well the demo plays, not what the licence is.

In the real world, licenses sell so well that Stern declared they'd never again sell a non licensed table. Granted, we're talking about today's market which caters to the home collector, not the arcade operator. When it comes to TPA, I doubt whether a licensed table or not matters much to sales. It does matter to the nostalgia factor, especially concerning DMD tables. There are a lot of people that buy TPA who mostly want DMD tables, and the licensed ones are the first to tumble off their tongue.

 

[soundwave106]

Do we really need a Kickstarter? With so many good tables out there why go for expensive licenced tables?

The Addams Family is definitely worth a Kickstarter, to be honest. Best selling pin of the revival era, and considered a classic. I'm sure if FS works out any reasonable rights, it will be put up for one.

I'll be honest, the only other 90s revival pin that I think would need, and possibly be worth, a Kickstarter is Indiana Jones. (I know Indy is said to be impossible though.)

 

[brakel]

But, but pinball machines never had ESRB age rating back in the day, heck they never had any type of age rrating did they??

What's in Jurassic Park that would make it quality for After Dark app?

No, because real pinball machines are not video games. That's also why I used the key word *could* when referring to potential ratings. FarSight won't know the actual rating until they submit it but they should have a good idea.

 

[Captain B. Zarre]

What's in Jurassic Park that would make it quality for After Dark app?

Graphic realism: the T-Rex eating a live goat, electric fence mode, stuff like that

 

[Heretic]

news straight from the top!

the easter bunny has a taf shaped egg!

looks like festers head

 

[Bowflex]

Do we really need a Kickstarter? With so many good tables out there why go for expensive licenced tables? More often than not they are not that great anyway and do people really care if something has a commercial theme, and do the commercial themes really sell better? I would have thought most people who don't go for season passes buy a table on the strength of how well the demo plays, not what the licence is.

I understand that Farsight is going for big fish that carry big costs and they've been able to get a few licenses cheap enough that didn't need a license. I just don't understand why we haven't seen a moderate kickstart for something like 10-25k for a great table that would be a lot of fun. I am not privy to know who they've pursued or how much some of the license holders would charge but there has to be a few out there that would be worth it and could succeed at a lower amount. Take Rocky and Bullwinkle. That would never make 50k or more like previous campaigns, but I could see it raising 15k with the fanbase available. I'd throw in for it.

 

[pm1109]

Tables like Simpsons Pinball Party & The Lord of the Rings would need a Kickstarters and are much better than
Terminater 2 in my opinion.If we never get Indiana Jones hopefully we can get these 2 sometime in the future.

 

[Kadett785]

I understand that Farsight is going for big fish that carry big costs and they've been able to get a few licenses cheap enough that didn't need a license. I just don't understand why we haven't seen a moderate kickstart for something like 10-25k for a great table that would be a lot of fun. I am not privy to know who they've pursued or how much some of the license holders would charge but there has to be a few out there that would be worth it and could succeed at a lower amount. Take Rocky and Bullwinkle. That would never make 50k or more like previous campaigns, but I could see it raising 15k with the fanbase available. I'd throw in for it.

Yeah..Rocky and Bullwinkle, Judge Dredd....even something like Back to the Future or Robocop should be doable for modest cost. These are not exactly hot licenses anymore.

TBH, for me the "Pinball After Dark" is pretty much smoke and a unnecessary distraction for the core product. I don't think any table currently in production would actually change the ESRB rating of the game because all of the supposed adult content - about the tables mentioned so far - is based on innuendo. My understanding is that ESRB ratings are based on far more concrete criteria.

 

[McGuirk]

Was hoping they would have cleared up the 360 situation, or had some good, solid news on it.

Maybe for the Passover reveals?

 

[Kratos3]

I was hoping they would announce the "super patch."

 

[brakel]

Yeah..Rocky and Bullwinkle, Judge Dredd....even something like Back to the Future or Robocop should be doable for modest cost. These are not exactly hot licenses anymore.

TBH, for me the "Pinball After Dark" is pretty much smoke and a unnecessary distraction for the core product. I don't think any table currently in production would actually change the ESRB rating of the game because all of the supposed adult content - about the tables mentioned so far - is based on innuendo. My understanding is that ESRB ratings are based on far more concrete criteria.

What Does that mean that Pinball After Dark "is pretty much smoke"? I also don't understand what you mean by "any table currently in production" because there are very few pinball machines in production these days. New productions like Stern's have a few hurdles to get over before they will be reproduced in TPA or After Dark. We're talking about tables out of production. Any its kind of silly to argue that there aren't any tables that would qualify. FarSight wouldn't be developing the After Dark version if they haven't already figured out what tables would qualify.

 

[Kadett785]

What Does that mean that Pinball After Dark "is pretty much smoke"? I also don't understand what you mean by "any table currently in production" because there are very few pinball machines in production these days. New productions like Stern's have a few hurdles to get over before they will be reproduced in TPA or After Dark. We're talking about tables out of production. Any its kind of silly to argue that there aren't any tables that would qualify. FarSight wouldn't be developing the After Dark version if they haven't already figured out what tables would qualify.

Without meaning to assume you are being obtuse for the sake of it, let me surmise that your question is genuine and clarify accordingly. I am saying that I do not think there are any tables currently in production or out of it, that would change the ESRB rating of TPA. As such, the idea of "Pinball after Dark" is a meaningless stunt which has no real relevance for the core product, an unnecessary distraction, as far as I am concerned. Am I clear?