PC - Bug Tilt Sensitivity is bugged

[Jeff Strong]

Title: Bug: Tilt sensitivity is much lower than the 360/PS3 verison
OS Version: Windows 7
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 5870
Ram: 8GB
Version #: 0.013
Display Mode: Full Screen
Display Resolution: 1920 x 1080

Frequency of Occurrence: 100%

Expected Result: Tilt Sensitivity should be the same as the other versions.
Actual Result: Tilt sensitivity is much lower than the 360/PS3 verison.

Comment: Take Gorgar for example: On the 360, if you quickly nudge twice, you will tilt. On PC, you can nudge several times in a row before it will tilt. It's true for other tables as well, but it really stands out on Gorgar since it's very easy to tilt on 360.

 

[Jeff Strong]

On Genie, I just nudged once per second and it took 7 full-strength nudges before I tilted. That's 7 nudges in 7 seconds. That shouldn't even be close to possible. It almost feels like the tilt is turned off completely unless you are actually trying to tilt it.

 

[SKILL_SHOT]

just turn tilt off problem solved!

 

[Jeff Strong]

just turn tilt off problem solved!

That's basically what it feels like now with it on. It's definitely not the same tilt sensitivity as the other versions. Something's wrong.

 

[SKILL_SHOT]

yeah on PS3 going from super sensitive GENIE to almost non-existing tilt HD there is a definitely variances from table to table. Are you using a controller?

 

[Jeff Strong]

yeah on PS3 going from super sensitive GENIE to almost non-existing tilt HD there is a definitely variances from table to table. Are you using a controller?

Yep, 360 controller. The sensitivity is completely different than the console versions or the mobile versions.

Another example:

Mobile: Centaur takes 3 nudges in 3 seconds to tilt.
PC: Centaur takes 5 or 6 nudges to tilt.

Hopefully Mike is looking into it because it's definitely bugged.

 

[Jeff Strong]

Black Hole takes 9 full-strength nudges in 9 seconds to tilt (1 nudge per second).

 

[Mike Reitmeyer]

I'm currently in a broken state, so I can't test it. I looked over the nudge code and it's the same on PC vs other platforms. I'm wondering if there is a difference in the controller code, so that a full push on the stick is 1.0 on Xbox but maybe on PC it's something less, so it takes more nudges to get a tilt.

 

[SKILL_SHOT]

I know on PS3 there is a difference from a tiny nudge a hard nudge and almost slam tilting my usual tendency is a hard nudge from reacting quickly.
was that a crack at living in Cali Mike? Good One!

 

[Mike Reitmeyer]

I know on PS3 there is a difference from a tiny nudge a hard nudge and almost slam tilting my usual tendency is a hard nudge from reacting quickly.
was that a crack at living in Cali Mike? Good One!

Lol. My code base was broken. But CA is too so I guess I has two meanings.

 

[kimkom]

Jeff, I'm using a wired 360 controller too. I don't think I've even seen a tilt warning!

I might go back and start slamming the table around!

 

[Jeff Strong]

Any progress on this?

 

[Stuart Webster]

Any progress on this?

*takes a peek at the pc and xbox controller code*

 

[Jeff Strong]

*takes a peek at the pc and xbox controller code*

Sounds delicious

 

[Stuart Webster]

Follows nearly the exact code path (nothing in the difference modifies the input).

Centaur, Gorgar, and Black Hole are tilting with the same input for me on PC with an Xbox 360 controller and the iPad.

Hmm...

 

[Jeff Strong]

Follows nearly the exact code path (nothing in the difference modifies the input).

Centaur, Gorgar, and Black Hole are tilting with the same input for me on PC with an Xbox 360 controller and the iPad.

Hmm...

Yeah, that's really odd. I was using a 360 controller on PC as well, with wildly different results than the iPad. This could greatly affect the leaderboards. Hopefully you guys figure it out.

 

[Mike Reitmeyer]

Yeah, that's really odd. I was using a 360 controller on PC as well, with wildly different results than the iPad. This could greatly affect the leaderboards. Hopefully you guys figure it out.

Just wondering if you calibrated the joystick. Control Pannel, Game Controllers, Properties, Settings tab, Calibrate?

 

[Jeff Strong]

Just wondering if you calibrated the joystick. Control Pannel, Game Controllers, Properties, Settings tab, Calibrate?

No, I never have. I've played a tons of different racing games with it on PC over the years and never had an issue with it being non-calibrated. I'm currently in the process of moving so my PC is packed up and I won't be able to test it for about a week. Even if it is out of calibration, should it still be possible to do that many nudges without tilting?

 

[Mike Reitmeyer]

No, I never have. I've played a tons of different racing games with it on PC over the years and never had an issue with it being non-calibrated. I'm currently in the process of moving so my PC is packed up and I won't be able to test it for about a week. Even if it is out of calibration, should it still be possible to do that many nudges without tilting?

Normally a full push on the stick registers as 1.0. If your stick wasn't calibrated properly and it only went to say 0.5, then it would take multiple hits to get a tilt, cause each hit would be like pressing the stick halfway.

 

[kimkom]

Normally a full push on the stick registers as 1.0. If your stick wasn't calibrated properly and it only went to say 0.5, then it would take multiple hits to get a tilt, cause each hit would be like pressing the stick halfway.

Perhaps this also applies to plunger control? I've found that the the plunger will pop out by almost 25%, with even the slightest touch on the thumbstick. There's no control over 0% - 25%.

But wouldn't that suggest it's too sensitive? Not the other way around, as the tilt problem suggests.


EDIT: I've just tested with the control panel, and the controller behaves perfectly there. ! Perhaps there's an issue with the deadzone settings? All of this might imply that it's too large.