What do you think the next kick starter will be?

[Bowflex]

I've spoken to a friend in BBC licensing and they say it would require leg work rather than a ton of money, I think Farsight are over estimating the cost of the Who license.

Get them in touch with Farsight then! This table needs to happen! It would have a huge appeal outside of normal TPA fans and potentially draw in a lot of new supporters and it is a great, super-challenging game.

 

[jbejarano]

First off, I think we're still several months away from another KickStarter. After the first two went like gangbusters, the T2 KickStarter was a bit more of a slog. It was successful, but it seemed the group of people inclined to contribute to these sorts of things had gotten a bit burnt out on KickStarters. That's why FarSight, if they're smart and they are, will probably continue to let the KickStarter funding route sleep a little while longer. They don't want to go to that well too often.

That said, once they do go back to KickStarter to fund premium-licensed tables, assuming there's no unforeseen breakthrough in lining up the licenses for The Addams Family, I'd agree that The Simpsons Pinball Party seems the next most likely. My preference would be Lord Of The Rings if they could somehow swing it. I've never played that table, but it looks amazing. Now, if you want to include Pinball After Dark, you might have to throw Family Guy into the discussion. Personally, I think Family Guy would fit in fine with The Pinball Arcade in its current form, but I could see how some nervous ratings-folks may threaten the "E" rating with Family Guy, so it may end up as a signature table of After Dark.

 

[soundwave106]

Get them in touch with Farsight then! This table needs to happen! It would have a huge appeal outside of normal TPA fans and potentially draw in a lot of new supporters and it is a great, super-challenging game.

Agreed, I was thinking that if you had to deal with all the individual elements it would be a nightmare. But the BBC themselves may have good central contact points for everything needed so if Farsight just knew who to talk to it may not be that bad.

 

[night]

Dracula & Judge Dredd would be great! (A large cold beer as well).

 

[Shaneus]

I've spoken to a friend in BBC licensing and they say it would require leg work rather than a ton of money, I think Farsight are over estimating the cost of the Who license.

Possibly. Either way, I've heard from a friend that the reason there's no Dr. Who repro parts available is because of the licensing, so make of that what you will...

 

[Bowflex]

First off, I think we're still several months away from another KickStarter. After the first two went like gangbusters, the T2 KickStarter was a bit more of a slog. It was successful, but it seemed the group of people inclined to contribute to these sorts of things had gotten a bit burnt out on KickStarters. That's why FarSight, if they're smart and they are, will probably continue to let the KickStarter funding route sleep a little while longer. They don't want to go to that well too often.

That said, once they do go back to KickStarter to fund premium-licensed tables, assuming there's no unforeseen breakthrough in lining up the licenses for The Addams Family, I'd agree that The Simpsons Pinball Party seems the next most likely. My preference would be Lord Of The Rings if they could somehow swing it. I've never played that table, but it looks amazing. Now, if you want to include Pinball After Dark, you might have to throw Family Guy into the discussion. Personally, I think Family Guy would fit in fine with The Pinball Arcade in its current form, but I could see how some nervous ratings-folks may threaten the "E" rating with Family Guy, so it may end up as a signature table of After Dark.

Twilight zone and st:tng Are top rated tables. T2 is more moderately popular and doesn't have the same legion of devotees. Plus the franchise has been harmed by lackluster sequels and fan frustration with lots of issues when t2 products have to go through all that red tape. In all fairness the license doesn't inspire, the table isn't that spectacular and on top of it the PC version still hadn't come out along with other ongoing issues (bugs, x360, etc). Now that most of farsights issues have been resolved, they just need the right table/license and it will be supported

 

[superballs]

First off, I think we're still several months away from another KickStarter. After the first two went like gangbusters, the T2 KickStarter was a bit more of a slog. It was successful, but it seemed the group of people inclined to contribute to these sorts of things had gotten a bit burnt out on KickStarters. That's why FarSight, if they're smart and they are, will probably continue to let the KickStarter funding route sleep a little while longer. They don't want to go to that well too often.

That said, once they do go back to KickStarter to fund premium-licensed tables, assuming there's no unforeseen breakthrough in lining up the licenses for The Addams Family, I'd agree that The Simpsons Pinball Party seems the next most likely. My preference would be Lord Of The Rings if they could somehow swing it. I've never played that table, but it looks amazing. Now, if you want to include Pinball After Dark, you might have to throw Family Guy into the discussion. Personally, I think Family Guy would fit in fine with The Pinball Arcade in its current form, but I could see how some nervous ratings-folks may threaten the "E" rating with Family Guy, so it may end up as a signature table of After Dark.

LOTR is a wonderful table but a bit strange. It's a fun table, with a good theme, but doesn't really have the level of storytelling that some tables like STtNG and HS2:TG do. I'm not saying that as a strike against the table but having played that table through all three movie multiballs and having achieve the wizard mode once, I can't say it uses the theme very well, even though it does have some really cool thematic features like the balrog, the magnetic ring, and the path of the dead, most of the play just seems like shooting ramps and hearing callouts.

That said, I would love to see it in TPA.

 

[ER777]

LOTR is a wonderful table but a bit strange. It's a fun table, with a good theme, but doesn't really have the level of storytelling that some tables like STtNG and HS2:TG do. I'm not saying that as a strike against the table but having played that table through all three movie multiballs and having achieve the wizard mode once, I can't say it uses the theme very well, even though it does have some really cool thematic features like the balrog, the magnetic ring, and the path of the dead, most of the play just seems like shooting ramps and hearing callouts.

That said, I would love to see it in TPA.

I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on LOTR. There's a lot more to it than just playing the 3 multiballs and starting Destroy the Ring. I get to DTR pretty frequently and manage to actually finish it from time to time, but that's really just scratching the surface. To start with the multiballs have more to them than first meets the eye and winning them is a lot different than playing them. They each have different levels that sort of correspond to the action from the movie scenes as you make repeated jackpots. If you last long enough to clear the levels you get a lot of bonus points and can win a gift of the elves (which leads to working towards the holy grail of pinball - Valinor Multiball, currently nothing more than wishful thinking for me).

There's also the story modes to throw in there which add some decent animations to give a little more story feel to the game. They also lead towards another wizard mode There and Back Again (which I haven't gotten to yet myself). Like with the movie multiballs finishing modes is tough but gains you another gift of the elves. I've never collected more than 2 in the same game unfortunately and you need all 6 for Valinor. Reaching TABA seems like a more reasonable goal.

I guess I just think as you get deeper into the ruleset the story line feeling comes out more. I know that I always leave feeling like I was getting close to reaching something new when I go play LOTR. I will definitely own one someday, its just a matter of how long it takes me to get one..

This is an interesting read for seeing the depth of the rules if you're interested:
http://pinball.org/rules/lordoftherings.txt

 

[Espy]

I think it would be pretty cool if they run a Kickstarter for say, three tables that might need cheaper licenses than the likes of LOTR. That way we get a few great licensed tables for our money. Not saying it will happen of course, don't even know the feasibility, but a cool idea,

 

[karl]

They basically said most of the top ten will not be coming out. Zen has no bearing on anything but they did state they are not getting a call back from Disney on anything. Dr who and gnr are both slim to none chances from direct comments by farsight. They also said Lotr won't be happening. Bttf won't happen anytime soon and they are not find of it. Simpsons is what they really need to go after along with shadow. They've also said tommy is the one music table that might not be too expensive.

This is a great post! (probably because it is very true to how I feel about the subject )

-The reason why Tommy and Elvis is even possible is because of them not having Elvis or The Who original tunes. Cover songs is much easier according to FS. (both of them are good pinballs that I would welcome with open arms)
-Doctor who is a nightmare because of a whole bunch of Actors. Wasn't there six or seven actors playing the Doctor?
-Freddy and Dracula would probably fit "Pinball after dark" better. I am rooting for Dracula but here you also have the actors and custom speech to consider. Freddy, although not as good will probably be easier to get for that After Dark app along with Tales from the crypt perhaps?
- It is a pity that LOTR is so hard to get. Personally I would think that one would be possible but if FS says: Not likely, then better to not get ones hope up too much I guess What a killer machine that is!

If there is one kickstarter this year and TAF is not in the cards, the only way for them to go= The simpsons. (there is also the possibility of both simpsons machines)
I love the Shadow to death (It is in my all-time top 5) but I have a hard time seeing it happening soon

 

[Espy]

This is a great post! (probably because it is very true to how I feel about the subject )

-The reason why Tommy and Elvis is even possible is because of them not having Elvis or The Who original tunes. Cover songs is much easier according to FS. (both of them are good pinballs that I would welcome with open arms)
-Doctor who is a nightmare because of a whole bunch of Actors. Wasn't there six or seven actors playing the Doctor?
-Freddy and Dracula would probably fit "Pinball after dark" better. I am rooting for Dracula but here you also have the actors and custom speech to consider. Freddy, although not as good will probably be easier to get for that After Dark app along with Tales from the crypt perhaps?
- It is a pity that LOTR is so hard to get. Personally I would think that one would be possible but if FS says: Not likely, then better to not get ones hope up too much I guess What a killer machine that is!

If there is one kickstarter this year and TAF is not in the cards, the only way for them to go= The simpsons. (there is also the possibility of both simpsons machines)
I love the Shadow to death (It is in my all-time top 5) but I have a hard time seeing it happening soon

Getting both Simpsons tables is actually more of a possibility compared to previous Kickstarters. With Star Trek, each table was based on a different generation, with different actors and copyright holders. With T2, again, more actor likenesses in T3 to pay for. With The Simpsons, exact same theme from the same company, same voice actors (I think), and no actor likenesses to pay for... hmm...

 

[Bowflex]

Getting both Simpsons tables is actually more of a possibility compared to previous Kickstarters. With Star Trek, each table was based on a different generation, with different actors and copyright holders. With T2, again, more actor likenesses in T3 to pay for. With The Simpsons, exact same theme from the same company, same voice actors (I think), and no actor likenesses to pay for... hmm...

I recall Farsight posted they were only interested in pursuing pinball party and not the data east table.

 

[Kolchak357]

I think it would be pretty cool if they run a Kickstarter for say, three tables that might need cheaper licenses than the likes of LOTR. That way we get a few great licensed tables for our money. Not saying it will happen of course, don't even know the feasibility, but a cool idea,

This could be a cool alternative. It seems these deals are very hard to get together. Would three small licenses be less work to pull together than one big one? Interesting idea.

 

[Kratos3]

I think people would come out in droves for a TAF kickstarter.

 

[Bowflex]

This could be a cool alternative. It seems these deals are very hard to get together. Would three small licenses be less work to pull together than one big one? Interesting idea.

I think the work involved has more to do with the number of licenses needed. If you have just one likeness or musical composer/performer as opposed to 5 that would be a lot less. Anytime you have to deal with lawyers it takes a while. You could have a cheaper table that is more work. They said ST:TNG was relatively easy since they had already had a line of contact with Paramount and that there was some agreement that all involved parties made so they didn't have to go after each actor individually. Probably made it a lot cheaper that way (both the license and the labor/legal fees involved). But obviously that was less work but still what we would consider quite expensive.

 

[lettuce]

Based on my recent Facebook research, I'm less optimistic about The Addams Family. I think the next Kickstarter will be for whatever they intend the October release to be... either Freddy: A Nightmare on Elm Street or Bram Stoker's Dracula. I would lean toward Dracula, as it's a tad more popular, but I think Freddy would be cheaper maybe. Lot more actors depicted on the Dracula table, therefore, more people wanting a check.

SO my guess is either Freddy: A Nightmare on Elm Street or Bram Stoker's Dracula.

Isnt Freddy just not a very good table though?? Also i think FS need to re-apply for the Gottlieb license once again dont they??

 

[karl]

If my understanding is correct, they do not need to re-apply for the Gottlieb license like they have to do with wms/bally.

A kickstarter for Freddy? That'll be the day! Never gonna happen.

Only a handful of tables have the possibility to succeed with a kickstarter and Freddy is not one of them. Doing a kickstarter takes a lot of resources for FS, including the license deal with lawyers, setting up the page and not to forget, all the positive press exposure a successful kickstarter can bring. Failing one = not very good exposure.

 

[Rudy Yagov]

Isnt Freddy just not a very good table though?? Also i think FS need to re-apply for the Gottlieb license once again dont they??

Freddy is a pretty good game. It's not as great as some of the WMS stuff, but it's not bad. I don't see it being a big enough table for a kickstarter, though.

And only WMS requires them to reapply for their license as far as I know. They can make as many Stern and Gottlieb tables as they want.

 

[Shaneus]

Freddy is a pretty good game. It's not as great as some of the WMS stuff, but it's not bad. I don't see it being a big enough table for a kickstarter, though.

And only WMS requires them to reapply for their license as far as I know. They can make as many Stern and Gottlieb tables as they want.

I doubt all the DE/Sega stuff that's licensed can just be added without any additional costs. Otherwise we'd have Tommy already, not to mention Baywatch, Lethal Weapon 3, WWF...

 

[Rudy Yagov]

I doubt all the DE/Sega stuff that's licensed can just be added without any additional costs. Otherwise we'd have Tommy already, not to mention Baywatch, Lethal Weapon 3, WWF...

Not arguing that. Just saying they don't need to renew their Gottlieb or Stern licenses like they do with WMS.

Also, the only DE titles that aren't licensed themed are Laser War, Secret Service, Torpedo Alley, and Time Machine. Not the most highly requested games, though they're not bad.