Your Top 10 Most Wanted "No License Issues" tables for TPA?

[Bass Mummy]

1. Haunted House
2. Centaur

You're in luck. Centaur is confirmed and is going to happen this year. It was voted on by this community and narrowly (and I mean narrowly) beat out Eight Ball Deluxe.

 

[pseudokings]

Class of 1812
4 Million BC
Whitewater
Fish Tales
Diner
Partyzone
Speakeasy
14 Tomcat
8 Ball Deluxe
Bad Cats

Very good list. Especially agree with the first 5.

 

[silverjaguar7]

Would love to see a handful of early 80s Ballys and Sterns- Skateball, Stargazer, Seawitch, Centaur (it's happening!), Eight Ball Deluxe, Fathom, Paragon, the list goes on...

If TPA could somehow get tap passing in the physics for the Ballys, my dreams would come true.

solid list. these names dont come up much!

 

[QuiGonJ]

Banzai Run, man I miss that machine.
High Speed
High Speed 2: The Getaway (with the songs featured on other tables, I don't think LaGrange will be that big a problem)
Haunted House
Diner
Big Guns

 

[Carl Spiby]

Road Show
Joker Poker
F-14
Fish Tales
BK2000 (For the music alone)
Indy 500
Black Rose
World Cup Soccer
NBA Fast Break
RFM (Lets throw the cat amongst the pigeons)

 

[Rudy Yagov]

I think.... yes, I'm really going to post this.

Top 50 unlicensed theme games on IPDB's top 300 list (note, some have licensed elements such as music):
1. 1993 White Water by Williams
2. 1998 Cactus Canyon by Bally
3. 1992 The Getaway: High Speed II by Williams
4. 1992 Fish Tales by Williams
5. 1991 The Party Zone by Bally
6. 1994 Red & Ted's Road Show by Williams
7. 1988 Cyclone by Williams
8. 1990 Diner by Williams
9. 1996 Junk Yard by Williams
10. 1996 Safe Cracker by Bally
11. 1986 High Speed by Williams
12. 1995 WHO dunnit by Bally
13. 1988 Banzai Run by Williams
14. 1989 Earthshaker by Williams
15. 1981 Fathom by Bally
16. 1988 Swords of Fury by Williams
17. 1982 Haunted House by Gottlieb
18. 1992 Black Rose by Bally
19. 1989 Black Knight 2000 by Williams
20. 1980 Xenon by Bally
21. 1989 Bad Cats by Williams
22. 1980 Nitro Ground Shaker by Bally
23. 1985 Sorcerer by Williams
24. 1989 Mousin' Around! by Bally
25. 1978 Joker Poker by Gottlieb
26. 1979 Paragon by Bally
27. 1979 Flash by Williams
28. 1981 Jungle Lord by Williams
29. 1987 F-14 Tomcat by Williams
30. 1985 Eight Ball Champ by Bally
31. 1981 Eight Ball Deluxe by Bally
32. 1978 Mata Hari by Bally
33. 1985 Comet by Williams
34. 1987 Laser War by Data East Pinball, Incorporated
35. 1978 Strikes and Spares by Bally
36. 1991 Class of 1812 by Gottlieb
37. 1983 Centaur II by Bally
38. 1987 Space Station by Williams
39. 1981 Embryon by Bally
40. 1993 Wipe Out by Gottlieb
41. 1979 Time Warp by Williams
42. 1980 Flight 2000 by Stern
43. 1988 Jokerz! by Williams
44. 1978 Sinbad by Gottlieb
45. 1981 Fireball II by Bally
46. 1991 Hurricane by Williams
47. 1990 Radical! by Bally
48. 1981 Elektra by Bally
49. 1982 Devil's Dare by Gottlieb
50. 1987 Fire! by Williams

Top 25 based on Pinside's top 100:
1. White Water
2. Cactus Canyon
3. The Getaway: High Speed II
4. Fish Tales
5. Red and Ted's Road Show
6. The Champion Pub
7. Xenon
8. Earthshaker
9. Fathom
10. Black Knight 2000
11. Banzai Run
12. Diner
13. Cyclone
14. High Speed
15. Junk Yard
16. Haunted House
17. Safe Cracker
18. Swords of Fury
19. Eight Ball Deluxe
20. WHO Dunnit
21. Devil's Dare
22. F-14 Tomcat
23. Paragon
24. Skateball
25. Big Game

Omissions include games that have been spotted, announced, and released for TPA, as well as anything not by Williams/Bally/Stern(Sega/DE)/Gottlieb, and Revenge From Mars which runs on Pin2K and cannot be recreated.

This should give you an idea of what we can expect with little trouble. Of course, they can't ALL be included. Names in italics would likely need scripting.

I forgot to remove Cactus Canyon on both lists and Champion Pub on the Pinside list, but I'm too tired and don't feel like redoing the list just based on those. White Water is also probable based on one FS office pic, but it's not definitive yet.

 

[Sumez]

Excellent summary!

 

[Zeether]

In no particular order:

1. Safe Cracker - The redemption game idea might be a bit pointless in a virtual pinball game but it would be cool regardless.
2. Black Knight 2000 - I'm assuming this is a definite after original BK. Love that theme song.
3. TX-Sector - Severely underrated Gottlieb table with great music and the ball "warp" mechanic is fun.
4. The Getaway - If they can get past the ZZ Top issue this would be great.
5. High Speed - Probably a given.
6. Jack*Bot - A lot of people bash this for being sparse playfield wise and I have to disagree. The sheer amount of points you can get from a good Casino Run bank in far outweighs the playfield's sparse appearance.
7. Cactus Canyon - One of Williams' last tables and it has some good toys like the train. Kind of doubtful about this due to how few were made but it would be a great addition.
8. Banzai Run - Very unique with the dual playfields, I'd love to see this in there.
9. Earthshaker - This could totally have the rumbling effect be simulated by controller rumble/phone vibration.
10. Xenon - I couldn't think of one to finish this list off so this will have to do.

 

[Gorgar]

In no particular order:

1. Safe Cracker - The redemption game idea might be a bit pointless in a virtual pinball game but it would be cool regardless.
2. Black Knight 2000 - I'm assuming this is a definite after original BK. Love that theme song.
3. TX-Sector - Severely underrated Gottlieb table with great music and the ball "warp" mechanic is fun.
4. The Getaway - If they can get past the ZZ Top issue this would be great.
5. High Speed - Probably a given.
6. Jack*Bot - A lot of people bash this for being sparse playfield wise and I have to disagree. The sheer amount of points you can get from a good Casino Run bank in far outweighs the playfield's sparse appearance.
7. Cactus Canyon - One of Williams' last tables and it has some good toys like the train. Kind of doubtful about this due to how few were made but it would be a great addition.
8. Banzai Run - Very unique with the dual playfields, I'd love to see this in there.
9. Earthshaker - This could totally have the rumbling effect be simulated by controller rumble/phone vibration.
10. Xenon - I couldn't think of one to finish this list off so this will have to do.

Cactus Canyon is confirmed. They even got one. You can see it in the making of Twilight Zone. Also, some of those Williams tables are not as much of a given as you think they are. Their agreement with Williams only allows them to do a limited number of their tables, which I think they are getting really close to approaching.

 

[Rudy Yagov]

They're not going to just stop making Williams/Bally games, they just have a limit on the games they can make before renewing the license.

 

[Bass Mummy]

I think.... yes, I'm really going to post this.

Top 50 unlicensed theme games on IPDB's top 300 list (note, some have licensed elements such as music):
1. 1993 White Water by Williams
2. 1998 Cactus Canyon by Bally
3. 1992 The Getaway: High Speed II by Williams
4. 1992 Fish Tales by Williams
5. 1991 The Party Zone by Bally
6. 1994 Red & Ted's Road Show by Williams
7. 1988 Cyclone by Williams
8. 1990 Diner by Williams
9. 1996 Junk Yard by Williams
10. 1996 Safe Cracker by Bally
11. 1986 High Speed by Williams
12. 1995 WHO dunnit by Bally

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This is a very interesting list. Good thinking in compiling it. I'm hoping we can see many of these tables make it to TPA.

 

[Sumez]

As stated, Cactus Canyon and White Water are already revealed to us. Fish Tales, Road Show and Diner, along with either High Speed or The Getaway are also likely to be due very soon I think, due to their "status". Hell, any table among the top 10 in the filtered IPDB list, apart from Safe Cracker are pretty much a given, really. I can't imagine they wouldn't follow up on Whirlwind with Earthshaker either.

 

[Gorgar]

Yes, but Pinball Arcade needs still be selling well enough to justify spending money to do more tables

 

[Carl Spiby]

I still have another 2 table packs to buy so that's another £6.40 for them

 

[Jutter]

I still have another 2 table packs to buy

 

[Bass Mummy]

As stated, Cactus Canyon and White Water are already revealed to us. Fish Tales, Road Show and Diner, along with either High Speed or The Getaway are also likely to be due very soon I think, due to their "status". Hell, any table among the top 10 in the filtered IPDB list, apart from Safe Cracker are pretty much a given, really. I can't imagine they wouldn't follow up on Whirlwind with Earthshaker either.

I'm sure we'll get all the tables you've mentioned eventually, (maybe not Safe Cracker) with Cactus Canyon coming sooner rather than later since it has already been officially announced. Rather than have them all out very soon, I think it's more likely that the top tables from the filtered list Rudy put together will be spaced out over time to pace sales and keep interest up. I suppose it kind of depends on how long Farsight plans to keep going with the development of TPA after 2013.

Also, Farsight has shown no hesitation in digging up the occasional lower ranked table from the IPDB and Pinside top lists, so I'd expect a few of those here and there as a way of spacing out the tables with big name recognition. Not that that's a bad thing in my mind.

 

[Rudy Yagov]

Filtered once again, this time only with tables that are new enough for emulation. Also removed White Water and Cactus Canyon. As with last time, all confirmed and released tables are omitted.

Remember, this is all just for fun and shouldn't be taken all too seriously.

Top 50 emulation-friendly unlicensed theme games on IPDB's top 300 list:
1. 1992 The Getaway: High Speed II by Williams
2. 1992 Fish Tales by Williams
3. 1991 The Party Zone by Bally
4. 1994 Red & Ted's Road Show by Williams
5. 1988 Cyclone by Williams
6. 1990 Diner by Williams
7. 1996 Junk Yard by Williams
8. 1996 Safe Cracker by Bally
9. 1986 High Speed by Williams
10. 1995 WHO dunnit by Bally
11. 1988 Banzai Run by Williams
12. 1989 Earthshaker by Williams
13. 1988 Swords of Fury by Williams
14. 1992 Black Rose by Bally
15. 1989 Black Knight 2000 by Williams
16. 1989 Bad Cats by Williams
17. 1989 Mousin' Around! by Bally
18. 1987 F-14 Tomcat by Williams
19. 1987 Laser War by Data East Pinball, Incorporated
20. 1991 Class of 1812 by Gottlieb
21. 1987 Space Station by Williams
22. 1993 Wipe Out by Gottlieb
23. 1988 Jokerz! by Williams
24. 1991 Hurricane by Williams
25. 1990 Radical! by Bally
26. 1987 Fire! by Williams
27. 1986 Grand Lizard by Williams
28. 1988 Escape from the Lost World by Bally
29. 1989 Big House by Gottlieb
30. 1989 Police Force by Williams
31. 1992 Cue Ball Wizard by Gottlieb
32. 1993 Tee'd Off by Gottlieb
33. 1995 Jack·Bot by Williams
34. 1986 Road Kings by Williams
35. 1988 Time Machine by Data East Pinball, Incorporated
36. 1986 Genesis by Gottlieb
37. 1991 Cactus Jack's by Gottlieb
38. 1989 Lights...Camera...Action! by Gottlieb
39. 1986 Strange Science by Bally
40. 1988 Diamond Lady by Gottlieb
41. 1992 Operation: Thunder by Gottlieb
42. 1987 Arena by Gottlieb
43. 1989 Transporter the Rescue by Bally
44. 1988 Secret Service by Data East Pinball, Incorporated
45. 1990 Pool Sharks by Bally
46. 1988 TX-Sector by Gottlieb
47. 2005 Grand Prix by Stern (Unlicensed version of NASCAR)
48. 1987 Party Animal by Bally
49. 1990 The Bally Game Show by Bally
50. 1989 Atlantis by Bally

Victory, a confirmed table, would be somewhere around 60.

 

[Sumez]

Is World Cup Soccer really considered a license issue? Is it actually possible to have the rights to call your particular event the "official" world cup of something that isn't a product of anyone? Does the table figure actual soccer players or something?

 

[Ark Malmeida]

Some great tables in that list that I'd LOVE to see in TPA! Out of the top 18, the only ones I don't remember ever seeing or getting a chance to play are The Party Zone, Safe Cracker and Swords of Fury, but from what people have said here on the forums those ones sound really good too.

 

[Rudy Yagov]

Is World Cup Soccer really considered a license issue? Is it actually possible to have the rights to call your particular event the "official" world cup of something that isn't a product of anyone? Does the table figure actual soccer players or something?

Yes, it is a licensed product.