Request Any chances to see more Stern tables in TPA?

[netizen]

if you looked around on the Internet, you'd never know that Rise of the Guardians resulted in an $80+ million loss. (Jack Frost has a lot, and I mean a LOT, of fangirls.)

Pixar, however, is giving itself a break right now, as Cars 2 was panned and Monsters University, while good, was largely considered not up to Pixar's usual standards. I also personally found Brave to have a weak second act, but the movie has plenty of fans.

Too bad Disney et al haven't figured out how to monetize Tumblr yet tho, eh.

Maybe this is the next big theme:

 

[Zombie Aladdin]

Who cares how popular the Simpsons series is today. TSPP is one of the best and most unique pinball machines from Stern and that is what we should focus on. Should be a no brainer if the license is available.

I am a little concerned though. There has been a long time since Farsight even gave us a soft license table and it do take a bit of work on their side to deal with any license holder at all. Since they have a little less manpower these days working on the game and there is a lot of other new stuff that needs to be done, like ps4, Xbox One, DX11, elections for the president of the company, new games in the making etc. it might just not be worth it for them trying to get a license like Simpsons at the moment. It also takes some work to set up the Kickstarter (if that is necessary in this case)

I hope I am wrong of course. TSPP should be one of the easier licenses to get, of the newer Sterns at least and it a table most of us want, a lot. I think it would be perfect for TPA, lots to shoot for in that game and much fun to be had for the young and old

You think Simpsons would be easy? I always had the impression a Simpsons license would be one of the hardest non-Disney, non-Nintendo, non-Peanuts licenses in existence, or at least one of the most demanding.

 

[DokkenRokken]

You think Simpsons would be easy? I always had the impression a Simpsons license would be one of the hardest non-Disney, non-Nintendo, non-Peanuts licenses in existence, or at least one of the most demanding.

There is no way on earth that Farsight gets "The Simpsons: Pinball Party", or even the original, without a Kickstarter.

They've said as much many, many times.

 

[Zombie Aladdin]

Yeah, I know. What I'm saying is that there's a good chance the Kickstarter may fail. That's something I know I've said many times here, and that's because of the weird notion that putting a Kickstarter up will guarantee a table's inclusion.

 

[karl]

There is a difference between easy and cheap (the price of the license is impossible for anyone to guess anyway) I know there was a special reason that T2 got funded but I believe TSPP is a more wanted table (or at least on par) with T2. Another thing that puzzle me is why they will not do another kickstarter before TAF, even if it takes years and years(and might never happen) before they get a chance to do a kickstarter for it. I agree that one kickstarter a year is probably enough but if they still have not got TAF come Autumn, I say do another one this year and save TAF for next year

 

[pm1109]

I would take TSPP over T2 any day of the week
Yes there should be atleast one kickstarter per year

 

[netizen]

there should be atleast one kickstarter per year

Why should there?

Unless the next Kickstarter is TAF there will be 0 community support. It was what was promised to get T2 funded. Anything else will be seen as a further breach of trust by those who already have issues with the way farsight uses Kickstarters to raise funds for licencing costs.

 

[canuck]

What's trust have to do with it? They should have a premium KS if the numbers work, if not well.... more non-licensed tables I guess. It's all good. But it would be nice to get the Simpsons.

 

[netizen]

What's trust have to do with it?

Money just appears out of nowhere then I guess, right? No need to maintain a positive relationship with the community you are hoping to sell the product to in any way :/

Just say **** it, why do the thing we promised and we will instead offer you something completely different and make you pay for it. There will be no issues at all with farsights image at all then

 

[vikingerik]

Fox licenses out the Simpsons intellectual property everywhere and anywhere. They'd be perfectly happy to play ball on the licensing, it's just a question of working out the costs. It's not like TAF with Julia's estate or Disney where the answer is almost a flat "no" before the negotiation even starts.

If Farsight's goal is to accurately replicate the real machine, shouldn't they make TSPP with the Itchy drop targets broken, the garage door opening only halfway, and one of the living room flippers dead? That's how most TSPP machines I've ever seen on location operated.

 

[canuck]

Fox licenses out the Simpsons intellectual property everywhere and anywhere. They'd be perfectly happy to play ball on the licensing, it's just a question of working out the costs. It's not like TAF with Julia's estate or Disney where the answer is almost a flat "no" before the negotiation even starts.

If Farsight's goal is to accurately replicate the real machine, shouldn't they make TSPP with the Itchy drop targets broken, the garage door opening only halfway, and one of the living room flippers dead? That's how most TSPP machines I've ever seen on location operated.

They should make the rest of the Star Trek tables too. Because why not?

 

[DokkenRokken]

Yeah, I know. What I'm saying is that there's a good chance the Kickstarter may fail. That's something I know I've said many times here, and that's because of the weird notion that putting a Kickstarter up will guarantee a table's inclusion.

I can't imagine "The Simpsons: Pinball Party" not meeting it's goal.

It's not like it's some average table like "T2" or something.

I would take TSPP over T2 any day of the week
Yes there should be atleast one kickstarter per year

I agree.

Why should there?

Unless the next Kickstarter is TAF there will be 0 community support. It was what was promised to get T2 funded. Anything else will be seen as a further breach of trust by those who already have issues with the way farsight uses Kickstarters to raise funds for licencing costs.

There should be 1 each Season because how else are we ever gonna get these big name, Premium tables like "The Simpsons: Pinball Party", "Dirty Harry", "Lethal Weapon 3", etc etc etc?

It the goal gets met, great! If it doesn't, than it wasn't meant to be.

I disagree 100% about there being "0 community support". I've seen way too many requests for "The Simpsons: Pinball Party", and that's the 1 premium table that Farsight has hinted to lately in the event that they cannot get "The Addams Family".

Money just appears out of nowhere then I guess, right? No need to maintain a positive relationship with the community you are hoping to sell the product to in any way :/

Just say **** it, why do the thing we promised and we will instead offer you something completely different and make you pay for it. There will be no issues at all with farsights image at all then

So because we can't get "The Addams Family", then no other premium table should ever be kickstarted?

I think that's a tad bit over-dramatic.

If we can't get "The Addams Family", then we can't get it. Hell, I want "Dr. Who", but I know that will never, ever happen. It is what it is.

 

[netizen]

So because we can't get "The Addams Family", then no other premium table should ever be kickstarted?

I think that's a tad bit over-dramatic.

If we can't get "The Addams Family", then we can't get it. Hell, I want "Dr. Who", but I know that will never, ever happen. It is what it is.

Has FS said they can't get TAF? who's being overly dramatic here?

 

[DokkenRokken]

Has FS said they can't get TAF? who's being overly dramatic here?

I meant no disrespect, and yes, so far they've said multiple times that at the present moment, they've been unable to negotiate a deal.

That's why we'll probably see another Premium table like "The Simpsons: Pinball Party" next season, instead.

 

[Zombie Aladdin]

What's trust have to do with it? They should have a premium KS if the numbers work, if not well.... more non-licensed tables I guess. It's all good. But it would be nice to get the Simpsons.

They promised The Addams Family would be the next one, if I read it correctly. To have the next one be something other than The Addams Family would be breaking a promise.

Fox licenses out the Simpsons intellectual property everywhere and anywhere. They'd be perfectly happy to play ball on the licensing, it's just a question of working out the costs. It's not like TAF with Julia's estate or Disney where the answer is almost a flat "no" before the negotiation even starts.

The difference is that that licensing is mostly for simple toys and collectible items, which I presume is rarely ever that much--even Disney will allow certain franchises tons and tons of third-party merchandise (most notably Marvel stuff).

Then again, perhaps it isn't that much after all--The Simpsons Pinball Party WAS done by what as then a new start-up company that hadn't had a proven big success yet.

 

[DokkenRokken]

They promised The Addams Family would be the next one, if I read it correctly. To have the next one be something other than The Addams Family would be breaking a promise.

True, but I think common sense tells us "If they CAN get it, than it would be the next table chosen for a Kickstarter. If they CAN'T, then they'd have to move on to another table."

 

[Sexton Hardcastle]

An average person born in 90s or later is not going to buy old school tables. It's really hard to attract this generation to a pinball game in the Call of Duty era.

People want graphics and achievements these days. However it is still possible with more modern licensed pins. Chances are this generation will love pinball too.

TPA must be profitable like every game so it is important to attract more active gamers too.

I tend to agree. When my kids see me play, they can't fathom for a moment why I would play a table that doesn't have a DMD on it. To them, that's the line in the sand between pinball being great or it looking like a relic that would be no fun at all. Me? I was born in 1973, and I always enjoyed older (as well as contemporary) machines when I was a kid as well as now.

Oh, and achievements: my son won't touch a game without them. He paid twice the amount for Spelunky on Steam than GoG, just for the Achievements. I will never get that.

 

[netizen]

True, but I think common sense tells us "If they CAN get it, than it would be the next table chosen for a Kickstarter. If they CAN'T, then they'd have to move on to another table."

Common Sense would say to look back at the previous kickstarter comments and then make a decision. Based on the tone of those comments, any kickstarter that wasn't TAF, provided FS hasn't already made a public announcement stating the licensing deal fell through, will likely be met with distrust and not meet it's funding goals. T2 had enough problems with meeting its funding goals and wouldn't have made it if FS hadn't offered up beta testing as a late reward tier.

This is why I doubt that they will be able to offer any "premium" licenses as kickstarted endeavours unless the entire licensing deal re: TAF has totally been settled and the info has been made public one way or the other.

However, it is time that FS makes some moves to fund the licensing for these "premium" tables in some way other than through Kickstarters as there is still lots of bad blood from the first three. Just mention xbox and kickstarter in the same sentence and you'll find some very unhappy players who are willing to take some very unethical actions to try and prevent FS from achieving any further goals; especially if those goals involve future Kickstarters. Several thousand dollar fake bids during T2 comes to mind.

 

[DokkenRokken]

Common Sense would say to look back at the previous kickstarter comments and then make a decision. Based on the tone of those comments, any kickstarter that wasn't TAF, provided FS hasn't already made a public announcement stating the licensing deal fell through, will likely be met with distrust and not meet it's funding goals. T2 had enough problems with meeting it;s funding goals and wouldn't have made it if FS hadn't offered up beta testing as a late reward tier.

This is why I doubt that they will be able to offer any "premium" licenses as kickstarted endeavours unless the entire licensing deal re: TAF has totally been settled and the info has been made public one way or the other.

However, it is time that FS makes some moves to fund the licensing for these "premium" tables in some way other than through Kickstarters as there is still lots of bad blood from the first three. Just mention xbox and kickstarter in the same sentence and you'll find some very unhappy players who are willing to take some very unethical actions to try and prevent FS from achieving any further goals; especially if those goals involve future Kickstarters. Several thousand dollar fake bids during T2 comes to mind.

I guess there's only way to find out.

I do hear what your saying, but they never lied. They've been trying to get "The Addams Family" ever since "T2" was funded, with no such luck. If they can't get the table, they can't get the table. I don't think it's smart to just dismiss every other Premium like table, just because "The Addams Family" can't be obtained. I also think most would understand that fact, unless they've got some sort of brain issue. I just highly doubt that people are gonna protest, esp in the event that they choose to Kickstart something like "The Simpsons: Pinball Party". The table is just too popular and too highly requested. (I think the other issue is that, although I'm thankful for it, "T2" is an average Premium table, at least in my opinion. I can see why so many people were making comments or/and not really supportive of Kickstarting the table.)

Now, if they choose to do something like "Metallica", than I could possibly understand your theory, but than again, I'd be mad simply over the fact that "Metallica" is not even close to any of the "premium tables that I'd like to see or/and are deserving at this stage.

 

[karl]

Not a bad idea to wait until the xbox 360 is back on track before announcing the next kickstarter