Table pack #35 speculation thread.

Zaphod77

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Surf N Safari has a special place in my heart, as i made the layout for visual pinball back in the day (the correct one), and captured the flow as well as visual pinball could back in the day.

No licensing issues i'm aware of, and it's got a ruleset very different from most Premiere games, so that makes it pretty cool.

Best premiere formula game is of course stargate, but that's a license.
 
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weirdproq

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Surf N Safari has a special place in my heart, as i made the layout for visual pinball back in the day (the correct one), and captured the flow as well as visual pinball could back in the day.

No licensing issues i'm aware of, and it's got a ruleset very different from most Premiere games, so that makes it pretty cool.

Surfin' Safari by the Beach Boys plays at the begining of the game, but doesn't seem to play during gameplay for some reason, so there might be a licensing issue there. Also, Gottlieb's Wipe Out has the song of the same name by the Surfaris.
 

rehtroboi40

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Surfin' Safari by the Beach Boys plays at the begining of the game, but doesn't seem to play during gameplay for some reason, so there might be a licensing issue there. Also, Gottlieb's Wipe Out has the song of the same name by the Surfaris.

Maybe they should have used "Surfin' Bird" by the Trashmen.

Have you heard?
 

vikingerik

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a boring Jackbot game

How much of Jack*bot have you actually played? There's a fair amount to do on it, just about equal to Getaway with a main multiball, a wizard-ish mode, and a few side features. The casino games are neat, Casino Run is quite the thrill, and the multi-stage main multiball with the visor is also interesting, comparable to MM's castle multiball with the different stages.

(TPA would need that Extra Ball button to mash for cheating on the casino games, which might be a minor headache to implement on all the touch platforms.)


Haunted House, which seems to get no love at all in TPA, is one of the few Gottlieb games in the IPDB solid state Top 100.

Because TPA's conversion fell flat. The flippers are way too strong and the ball much too fast and jumpy, entirely unlike the real machine should play. The level-changing isn't nearly as impressive in a virtual machine as on a real one. And TPA HH is always right next to Black Hole which does the same stuff better; the overly strong flippers don't ruin BH thanks to the wide open layout and few drains for the ball to fling into.


(Including another machine everyone seems to hate on in TPA, Central Park, which is #7 on the EM top 100 and actually would easily make the combined top 100 too.)

I wonder if that ranking is due to TPA itself. People know Central Park from TPA (and PHOF) and they'll rank what they know.
 
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dtown8532

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Central Park is a popular 60's Wedgehead. Just about any of the Gottlieb's with mechanical back glasses carry some strong value.
 

JJH516

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How much of Jack*bot have you actually played? There's a fair amount to do on it, just about equal to Getaway with a main multiball, a wizard-ish mode, and a few side features. The casino games are neat, Casino Run is quite the thrill, and the multi-stage main multiball with the visor is also interesting, comparable to MM's castle multiball with the different stages.

(TPA would need that Extra Ball button to mash for cheating on the casino games, which might be a minor headache to implement on all the touch platforms.)

I've actually played it many times, more so when it first came out. The issue is that we already have 2 other games just like it. This version has slightly more to do, but it's essentially the same game. It would be like if I released Firepower and added DMD and a poker theme.
 

IGoFirstIndy

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Central Park is a popular 60's Wedgehead. Just about any of the Gottlieb's with mechanical back glasses carry some strong value.

I kinda dig Central Park for what it is. I'll play it every once in a while and am glad to have it in TPA. That being said, I would rather have a 70's era EM added this season.
 

Bowflex

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Gottlieb did great with EM's. They were the kings of that era of Pinball. There were other companies that made some stellar tables but Gottlieb consistently turned out fantastic tables. Some of their early SS tables are also really good EM feeling tables despite using the newer technology which isn't necessarily a good thing but they still played well.
 

soundwave106

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I wonder if that ranking is due to TPA itself. People know Central Park from TPA (and PHOF) and they'll rank what they know.

I think the ranking would be lower if TPA players ranked it. :)

I do think the 1960s and earlier EMs are a bit too harder to translate on the computer, and also represent too different of a time. I'm extrapolating from what I heard (never played a 60s EM), but from what I understand: They rely more on nudging, are usually *designed* with very short ball times (ala Central Park), are designed slower (TPA EMs / early SS tend to be very fast), and are usually straightforward with the only goal to get the replay.

The only EM I've played in real life is Gottlieb's "Spirit of 76". It wasn't easy, but it wasn't designed to drain either -- you could get some long ball times on that. TPA could tweak that one and come up with a Big Shot style table easily IMHO, and I imagine other 1970s EM pins would be similar.
 

weirdproq

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I definitely would prefer to see more Gottlieb EM's, like all of them (with the exception of the ones without flippers, which I bet Farsight won't do) from Microsofts game. I really liked those tables in that collection. Although, Rescue 911, Stargate, Freddy, Wipe Out, and maybe Waterworld would be ones I would like to see from the 90's pins.
 

Gorgar

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Latest news letter has next table's hint.
Does it means pack 35 is not TAF?

Nah. The hint points to Starship Troopers. Apparently, the hint guy loves making hints so much that he made a hint for it despite it already being revealed as table #34.
 

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