I would love to see both tables Xenon and Paragon make it in, a really hard choice, but I voted for Xenon.
By the way what about a re-release of the "Sorcerer" Pinball Table from Pinball Hall of Fame/Classics from xbox360?
I know, that why I added the "just saying" . Besides I don't really care if Paragon or Xenon wins. I just checked all the facts on the IPD for the first time.
Xenon, project started in 1979, manufactured in 1980 .. ok enough hairsplitting
So Xenon won the poll but now needs to win again in order to be made because the first results weren't good enough?
Yeah, my guess is that Farsight used the project started date (1979) which is what is listed on the header of Xenon's IPDB page.
They really are only a year apart; the major difference technology wise is that Xenon has a quite a bit more capable sound board. Paragon's sound is more like Genie (sounds when you hit things, no background noises, though from Youtube videos the bleeps and blips are not quite as annoying as Genie ).
I kind of lump the pins technology wise from 1977-1984 together, although there's a big sound difference from Flash and Gorgar on upward. If this was really a early SS poll, you could've put pins like Eight Ball Deluxe or Fathom on it and to me it would've fit. (If it was an actual EM poll however, very few tables after 1977 would qualify. )
I think Farsight sold their Sorcerer machine to acquire other licenses or to buy other machines. The story is somewhere on this forum.
They sold ALL of their Williams machines after PHOF and had to rebuy any game they wanted to add to TPA.
The thing about Sorcerer is that they only had one WMS license remaining and chose to do Fish Tales instead of Sorcerer. Of course, they've renewed their deal with Williams, so they could do Sorcerer now if they wanted.
They sold ALL of their Williams machines after PHOF and had to rebuy any game they wanted to add to TPA.
The thing about Sorcerer is that they only had one WMS license remaining and chose to do Fish Tales instead of Sorcerer. Of course, they've renewed their deal with Williams, so they could do Sorcerer now if they wanted.
But there was a time where Farsight recreated tables without having the actual machines. They just went to the arcade and took pictures. This was before PHOF?
I didn't know they bought all the machines (except sorcerer) twice.
They already contradicted themselves because the first Season you could buy all tables separately and at that time they were charging us for the PHOF tables. Saying they gave the tables for free was not the truth.The problem with this is that FS backed themselves into a corner with their "story" about having given us the PHOF titles for free. Now if they release it, they'll have to release it at a loss paired with another table, unless they want to lose face and contradict themselves.
(..) at that time they were charging us for the PHOF tables. Saying they gave the tables for free was not the truth.