Version 1.40.x

Pinballwiz45b

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Version 1.40.9 Bugs: ​(Added Pin*Bot and High Speed.)

Safe Cracker:

Other Bugs (both versions are RED, issues highlighted in DX11 are TEAL):

  • Xenon: Bonus Completion light sequence isn't synced up with the sound.
  • Muffled or abnormal music/sounds on Bride of Pin*Bot, Central Park, Cirqus Voltaire, Firepower, FunHouse, Genie, Gorgar, No Good Gofers, Ripley's, Scared Stiff, Theatre of Magic, and TotAN. Are the sound files 11k instead of 44k?
  • Higher pitched sounds/music on other tables, listed here.
  • Lights Camera Action: Missing floodlights.
  • Lights Camera Action: Many light issues. See this video for details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7M67hV0lfk
  • Attack From Mars: GI on the left and right plastic pieces (texture swapping) has been carried over to DX11 from DX9.
  • Attack From Mars: Find a way to strengthen the Strobe light in DX11? (It really isn't a bug, but more of a feature. There are some videos of the light reaching further outwards in a really dark room, but it's really hard to replicate. Plus, there should be an option for that kind of thing.)
  • Haunted House: An upper playfield plastic is lit when the ball is in the lower playfield. Should be the other way around.
  • Haunted House: Bumpers need GI. Lighting should be called accordingly depending on where the ball is.
  • Haunted House: The first yellow light in the attic is too dim during play.
  • Haunted House: Brighter GI is needed; the game is too dark.
  • Haunted House: Game does not replicate the concept of two different flipper buttons. One pair controls the main playfield while the other pair controls the other two playfields.
  • Haunted House: The second Add bonus light in the Cellar looks lit even though it's not.
  • Haunted House: Collision issue on the tip of the Cellar's left flipper. The ball is phasing through that part of the flipper.
  • ​Haunted House: Monster Bonus digits need to be brightened. See here: http://www.ipdb.org/images/1133/image-40.jpg
  • Haunted House: The two upperleft-most posts on the main playfield (above the three holes) need GI.
  • Haunted House: When the ball is in the lower playfield, some of the GI overflows onto the main playfield.
  • Haunted House: Missing GI in the lower right and middle-left (slingshot) part of the Cellar.
  • Haunted House: If possible, have GI bulbs illuminate the lower playfield, seen here: http://www.ipdb.org/images/1133/image-39.jpg http://www.ipdb.org/images/1133/image-40.jpg
  • Haunted House: A rubber is missing above the 2nd right flipper on the main playfield and below the gate leading to the flipper.
  • High Speed: "Getaway", "Ramp Bonus", "Bonus X", and lights "1" through "6" (these are without GI on) are dimmed.
  • High Speed: The Game Over light is not flashing on the backglass. Lower left corner of the backglass.
  • High Speed: The Match light doesn't exist on the backglass.
  • High Speed: The Ball in Play light doesn't exist on the backglass.
  • High Speed: The Shoot Again light on the backglass doesn't flash.
  • High Speed: The spinner sound (a build up effect) when 1,000 is lit is missing. Sound is present in DX9, though.
  • Creature: Overall GI lighting needs brightened.
  • Creature: As the ball travels along the right ramp, it touches the gate of the left ramp.
  • Centaur: Backglass isn't lit.
  • Earthshaker: GI activity needs tuning on features like Match Up (light brightness is fine). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3DLZKWmqGI
  • Earthshaker: Plunger is too powerful, hitting 100k on max plunge. I heard the ball rattle a bit on the spiral. A bit less power works for going on the Overpass.
  • Earthshaker: A red flasher on the right ramp is linked with Zone 9.
  • Earthshaker: The Left Roadsign bulb (Center Ramp) is too dim. The Mile 30 light is making this light activate.
  • Fish Tales: Captive ball lights are too dim. Surprisingly, the flashers are fine.
  • Fish Tales: Most of the GI belongs to the Lower Playfield, according to the Operator's Menu/Tests/General Illumination. This section needs reworked. See this video for details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw3ohZDaLP0
  • Black Knight 2000: Only the lower half of the backbox is lit.
  • Black Knight 2000: Each of the RANSOM letters are dim when lit. Backbox only.
  • Taxi: As the ball travels along the right habitrail, the ball can sometimes hit the leftmost Lola drop target and drop it.
  • Taxi: Light sequences and alphanumeric animations are off-sync with the music. Compare the Million and the Jackpot sequences with their real-life counterparts.
  • Taxi: The Carry Passengers light coincides with the Million light.
  • White Water: No flashers on the backglass.
  • White Water: Occasional ball hops at Bigfoot Bluff's diverter: http://youtu.be/9uFpTJeTld4
  • Champion Pub: Start Fight light sequence missing on both health bars (and other lights): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzFvBmwIx5g
  • Champion Pub: Broken when you begin a game. FIXED
  • Whirlwind: Light effects around the lightning flashers remain on, once turned on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wajnSB882p4
  • Whirlwind: Plunging and making the 3-Toll ramp, a bit less than full power. That ramp needs to feel more steep.
  • Whirlwind: The set of Super Door Values lights on the HUD should be similar to that of Earthshaker and Cyclone.
  • ​Whirlwind: Enter Initials music doesn't loop, Menu Music on or not.
  • Whirlwind: The same music mentioned above doesn't loop when a multiball mode is ready. Same with Enter Initials.
  • Whirlwind: 3,000 Spinner and the 100K spot target lights are dim.
  • Twilight Zone: Multiball startup light sequence is wrong, alongside claiming a Jackpot, both being off sync when compared to the actual machine. It should start out slow, then build up as the sounds do. Visual Pinball and some machines suffer from this as well. Here's how it should be: http://youtu.be/K5DY_Mr2n3U?t=5m49s
  • Twilight Zone: Brighter flashers and GI are needed, similar to that of Addams Family.
  • Twilight Zone: The "GUM" and "BALL" lights are tied in with two of the red flashers.
  • Twilight Zone: The "Lock 2" light is very dim. The left outlane EB light is tied in with Lock 2.
  • Twilight Zone: The green bulb (Left Spiral light) right next to the Powerfield is very dim. Not the white arrow marked Powerball.
  • Twilight Zone: The 2 red lights on the Powerfield are very dim and illegible.
  • Twilight Zone: Some 5 Mil lights, as well as the 3 left ramp arrow lights, Clock Millions light, and Power Payoff light, are dim.
  • Twilight Zone: Some of the GI are in the wrong places in DX11, including the backglass. Refer to the Operator Menu/Tests/General Illumination. (I'm not sure if this is an issue; I'll need to look at the GI myself on the actual machine.) http://youtu.be/3f5IlUL3vkU
  • Twilight Zone: Lost In the Zone music starts playing right after claiming the award, during "You have come to the end of your journey." No music should be playing from there until "Survival is everything" and further on. Music should then stop when the second fly-through plays after listing all events in the mode, with LITZ music starting shortly after. When LITZ ends, music should stop playing until the final totals begin to add up. Here is how it should be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6KC8ciDfpQ
  • Twilight Zone: Music doesn't stop playing when a Powerball Payoff is collected, before starting Powerball Mania.
  • Twilight Zone: Music doesn't stop playing when Clock Chaos activates, during "Time is a one-way street...". The correct music plays afterward, though.
  • Twilight Zone: Greed music is missing.
  • Twilight Zone: Starting a new game while "Game Over" is on the DMD immediately ends the new game.
  • Twilight Zone: A sound is missing during the opening Multiball sequence, interrupted by another. Listen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJSljt9thtg
  • Twilight Zone: Metal ramp in the Lock shot is missing. This video shows that metal ramp when stripped of other playfield components: http://youtu.be/00LzUVAzJ8o?t=1m3s
  • Twilight Zone: Camera wall is missing. One link has a picture; the other is a video. http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=2684&picno=37888&zoom=1 http://youtu.be/00LzUVAzJ8o?t=1m3s
  • Addams Family: Cousin It's bonus tune is lower-pitched. Listen here: http://youtu.be/FSDuME40j48
  • Phantom of the Opera: Right habitrail interferes with the metal piece around the spinner. http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1777&picno=9468
  • Starship Troopers: The Bug counters need to be brightened. Should be similar to that of LCA.
  • Starship Troopers: The main theme music is getting cut off early. This video shows that there is more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoDUY4AIED4
  • Star Trek TNG: The Delta ramp gate isn't aligned to the metal piece below the Lock/Super bulbs. http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=2357&picno=13798
  • Pin*Bot: Red topper is missing. http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1796&picno=21840&zoom=1
  • Pin*Bot: The Game Over light is missing on the backglass.
  • Pin*Bot: The Match Lamp is missing on the backglass.
  • Pin*Bot: The Ball in Play light is missing on the backglass.
  • Pin*Bot: Each of the 5 mouth lights on the backglass are missing.
  • Firepower: Skewed cabinet art. http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=856&picno=44750&zoom=1
  • Black Hole: Tube at the Re-Entry is really faded. It's missing overall on DX9.
  • Class of 1812: The teeth and heart are supposed to be in the rhythm of the music during Multiball. See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap6C4inCD7I
  • Black Knight: Locks need more tuning. A second ball locked where it's supposed to exit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBdo_V0AAb8
  • Black Knight: Sometimes the first lock doesn't register. A nudge can solve this problem. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBdo_V0AAb8
  • Black Knight: Depending on how balls are positioned, a third lock up top can be denied.
  • Medieval Madness: Rare collision issue where the ball can sometimes hop off the right ramp and onto the habitrail.
  • Black Rose: The plunger switch needs lowered.
  • Black Rose: The 2K Jet light is tied in with the Combo light on the same shot. Likewise with the Combo light tying in with the 2K Jet light.
  • Black Rose: The 1K Jet light is tied in with the Jewel light on the same shot. Likewise with the Jewel light tying in with the 1K Jet light.
  • FunHouse: The right Gangway bulb is linked to another light.
  • Monster Bash: Music immediately stops after the Match sequence, if a high score is registered. This happens when the Menu Music is turned off.
  • Monster Bash: Rare collision issue where the ball can hop onto the habitrail from the right ramp.
  • Diner: Each of the red lights around the clock is missing.
  • Cirqus Voltaire: Lights "R", "U", and "S" in Cirqus are tied in with the Juggler, Highwire Multiball, and Acrobats lights.
  • Gorgar: The upper left GI is not supposed to be on. It needs to flash when the ball touches the target in the magnet area.
  • Gorgar: A GI bulb a bit above the kicker is not lit.
  • Tales of the Arabian Nights: T.8. 40 (Lamp 58), the left Shooting Star light, is tied in with both Lightning Lamp lights.
  • Tales of the Arabian Nights: T.8. 50 (Lamp 72), the left Lock light, is tied in with the upper right lightning bolt light in the jets.
  • Tales of the Arabian Nights: T.8. 55 (Lamp 77), the Wish 2 light, is tied in with a flasher on the upper left playfield.
  • Tales of the Arabian Nights: T.8. 56 (Lamp 78), the Wish 3 light, is tied in with a flasher on the upper right playfield.
  • Tales of the Arabian Nights: T.5. 20, the Bazaar flasher, is almost non-existent. A small light is located on the right loop gold symbol.
  • Bram Stoker's Dracula: All 3 Coffin Lamps are missing. My guess is that they're tied in with the two Coffin Lock bulbs, but haven't seen it myself.
  • ​Genie: The three yellow plastics below the left ABCD lanes are missing GI.
  • Ripley's: No music plays at the Enter Initials interface. This happens when the Menu Music is turned off.
  • Tee'd Off: Light #62, "Spin Gopher Wheel", is dim.
  • Tee'd Off: Light #60, the Hole in One at the center shot, ties in with an arrow's light bulb on the same shot.
  • Tee'd Off: Light #24, the 1st Hole, is tied in with the Spin Gopher Wheel light.
  • Tee'd Off: The apron is too low; balls draining can be seen directly. Everything else on the apron should be adjusted accordingly.
  • Scared Stiff: Music is missing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neEHzPWyJkE
  • Theatre of Magic: Collision issue when a ball phased through the trunk and stuck behind a target. See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9HaFbHKqCI
  • Shutyertrap's and other users' mentions listed.
 
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Nate

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good god its 5 dollars you guys grow up or at least quit crying about it, email support if it matters that much to you, a couple months ago I accidentally purchased the TAF ball pack twice while running a test build and I figure that was my own fault for being clownish enough to repurchase something I know I already owned and screwing around with ballpacks in a test build. I deserve to lose a few bucks for being that braindead and I will never ask for my money back.
 

francis247uk

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I fully support seeing the bug lists, that way if Farsight ever have any free resources over the month they have something to refer to.

Keep up the good work Pinballwiz45b
 

Crazy Newt

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Pinballwiz45b: is this really necessary to re-post the same list of bugs 100 times ? :)

Posting the bug list is not being done out of malice, but of good will and support in an effort to make the game the best it can be. Pinballwiz45b is one of the biggest fans of TPA.
 

EldarOfSuburbia

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How about getting a sticky thread that is linked to from these update threads. You could mark off new and fixed issues. (Btw thanks for keeping this up to date, even from Replay FX!)
 

Pinballwiz45b

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Thank you all for the support! Had a great time at ReplayFX and am ready for some more bug finding.

I think having a separate thread is a good idea. I'll start a new thread with the first post containing all the issues, then update it each build.
 

EldarOfSuburbia

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Thank you all for the support! Had a great time at ReplayFX and am ready for some more bug finding.

I think having a separate thread is a good idea. I'll start a new thread with the first post containing all the issues, then update it each build.
Annoyed I couldn't make it there (for sooo many stupid reasons), hopefully there's something next year. Ah well next up is York in October.
 

kevenz

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and kevenz its not the same list your attention to detail is lackluster at best.

I know it's not 100% the same list but I'm just affraid that TPA developpers won't pay attention to such a huge list re-posted many times.
 

EldarOfSuburbia

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I know it's not 100% the same list but I'm just affraid that TPA developpers won't pay attention to such a huge list re-posted many times.

I'm sure they do, and I'm sure that most if not all of those issues are in their own internal bug tracking database.

A lot of them are art bugs, though, and the Farsight art department appears to be a law unto itself (I've seen this hinted at by at least two current FS developers). The programmers aren't artists (and that's probably a good thing) so they're at the whim of others when it comes to fixing some of those things.

As for the rest, some bugs take longer than others to fix. Ever had a bug that looks like it's as easy as fixing a single line of code, that ends up being several days' worth of work? When you're under pressure to release new content every 4 or 5 weeks?
 

FlippyFloppy

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I'm sure they do, and I'm sure that most if not all of those issues are in their own internal bug tracking database.

A lot of them are art bugs, though, and the Farsight art department appears to be a law unto itself (I've seen this hinted at by at least two current FS developers). The programmers aren't artists (and that's probably a good thing) so they're at the whim of others when it comes to fixing some of those things.

As for the rest, some bugs take longer than others to fix. Ever had a bug that looks like it's as easy as fixing a single line of code, that ends up being several days' worth of work? When you're under pressure to release new content every 4 or 5 weeks?

Exactly.
 

MattW

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Haunted House: Collision issue on the tip of the Cellar's left flipper. The ball is phasing through that part of the flipper.

^^^^ Yeah this one has been quite annoying in the tournaments. :(
 

Firefox2000

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Why shouldn't I? It's always helpful to know which bugs remain. Sorry if the list is too long.

Please continue to post these bugs, i am sure they help FS pinpoint what needs to be fixed, and that is what will make this game better for everybody in the long run, so keep up the good work bud. :)
 

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